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Symbolics Lisp Machine UI Examples

87 points by sabalaba 12y ago

seanmcdirmid 12y ago
The link doesn't work for me, and I'm outside the GFW right now, so maybe the site is down?
- kjs3 12y ago
  Dead for me as well.
  - quink 12y ago
    http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=http%3a%2f%2flispm.de%2fsymbolics-ui-examples%2fsymbolics-ui-examples.html&d=4965108085557060&mkt=en-AU&setlang=en-AU&w=HdyrHarJ8WfR3qe0BE_V2fNTJk1psrRl http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=http%3a%2f%2flispm.de%2fsym... No luck on Internet Archive/Google. This page I think has some images from the same domain: http://ffffound.com/home/fish2000/post/ http://ffffound.com/home/fish2000/post/ Server used to be on lispm.dyndns.org previously, so that may be a clue as to why it's dead atm.
  - kayman 12y ago
    Ditto, dead for me too
- JasonFruit 12y ago
  What's a GFW? EDIT: Never mind: Great Firewall of China.
  - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
    I figure anyone who is reading right now is in Asia (too early for Europe, too late for USA).
    - nocman 12y ago
      You're wrong. I'm in the USA, and I just tried to read it. (and the link doesn't work for me either) There have to be so many "night owls" on this site, I can't imagine why you would think it would be too late in the US to try at this hour.
      - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
        It would be too late in the US for most of the user base to be from the US; the users posting begin shifting to Asia and in a few hours to Europe. Fascinating to watch how the comments change accordingly.
    - dropit_sphere 12y ago
      Never underestimate the insomnia of hackers.
zachrose 12y ago
I would really like to see any pictures of Symbolics hardware or screenshots of Genera. I used to work with a guy who wrote CAD software on these in the 80s and he made it sound really cool.
bitwize 12y ago
As far back as I can remember, lispm.de was hosted on some guy's personal box, so it was prone to downtime and simply being overwhelmed. Come on, man. We're living in the era of clouds and virtual server images. Servers are cattle, not pets.
- q3k 12y ago
  > Servers are cattle, not pets. That is for the owner of the server to decide, not an universal truth.
  - RX14 12y ago
    I have pet servers! Cuddles a server
  - angersock 12y ago
    I suspect a lot of the people who view servers as cattle probably haven't had to maintain bare metal hardware, or do serious ops work. It makes sense that you wouldn't get attached to an EC2 instance--most of the "fun" [sic] has been taken out of it.
lispm 12y ago
The page with lots of images on a tiny ARM board is not made for Hackernews traffic. Not a good idea to submit it to Hackernews. Sorry.
- seanmcdirmid 12y ago
  Couldn't someone just mirror this?
- tempodox 12y ago
  Maybe we should start a collection and afford the OP a box that is HN-proof. A Lisp Machine Hall Of Fame should be worth it :-)
- eschaton 12y ago
  Have you considered hosting the images on imgur or another such site, at least during HN traffic? Until such time as people can reasonably get their hands on OpenGenera (which I gather might now be in the hands of CL-HTTP's author) people are going to be pretty interested in things like this and Kalman Reti's recent YouTube video.
  - networked 12y ago
    You could also use CoralCDN (http://www.coralcdn.org/ http://www.coralcdn.org/) for the images on your page, which would mirror them automatically. Unfortunately, if you try to submit a link to *.nyud.net to HN directly it turns out dead.
- look_lookatme 12y ago
  You can host the images themselves on Imgur.
djfdev 12y ago
The fact that this is broken really says it all
- coldtea 12y ago
  Really? Like what? You know that that the server is based in some entirely different technology right?
scrumper 12y ago
I came across this a couple of months ago. It's very interesting and worth a look: I'd urge anyone interested to bookmark the page and try again in a few days.
soapdog 12y ago
IIRC that site is hosted on a Raspberry Pi running SBCL and CL-HTTP, if it could handle HN traffic it would be just magical. Since the website is not up I decided to fish for a video showing Open Genera stuff elsewhere to share with you fine folk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4-YnLpLgtk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4-YnLpLgtk Unfortunately there is no easy way for we to play with open genera since its proprietary and expensive. The world would be a better place if this type of system popped up more often. For those interested in Lisp I recommend the book "Land of Lisp" http://landoflisp.com/ http://landoflisp.com/ or if you're more like a Racketeer then "Realm of Racket" http://realmofracket.com/ http://realmofracket.com/
outworlder 12y ago
Aw, come on. Someone please mirror this. I find everything by Symbolics to be fascinating - and decades ahead of its time.
spariev 12y ago
I've made a mirror for the images - http://imgur.com/a/KsSaA http://imgur.com/a/KsSaA and http://imgur.com/a/3BtzZ http://imgur.com/a/3BtzZ

87 points by sabalaba 12y ago

seanmcdirmid 12y ago

The link doesn't work for me, and I'm outside the GFW right now, so maybe the site is down?

kjs3 12y ago
Dead for me as well.
- quink 12y ago
  http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=http%3a%2f%2flispm.de%2fsymbolics-ui-examples%2fsymbolics-ui-examples.html&d=4965108085557060&mkt=en-AU&setlang=en-AU&w=HdyrHarJ8WfR3qe0BE_V2fNTJk1psrRl http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=http%3a%2f%2flispm.de%2fsym... No luck on Internet Archive/Google. This page I think has some images from the same domain: http://ffffound.com/home/fish2000/post/ http://ffffound.com/home/fish2000/post/ Server used to be on lispm.dyndns.org previously, so that may be a clue as to why it's dead atm.
- kayman 12y ago
  Ditto, dead for me too
JasonFruit 12y ago
What's a GFW? EDIT: Never mind: Great Firewall of China.
- seanmcdirmid 12y ago
  I figure anyone who is reading right now is in Asia (too early for Europe, too late for USA).
  - nocman 12y ago
    You're wrong. I'm in the USA, and I just tried to read it. (and the link doesn't work for me either) There have to be so many "night owls" on this site, I can't imagine why you would think it would be too late in the US to try at this hour.
    - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
      It would be too late in the US for most of the user base to be from the US; the users posting begin shifting to Asia and in a few hours to Europe. Fascinating to watch how the comments change accordingly.
  - dropit_sphere 12y ago
    Never underestimate the insomnia of hackers.

zachrose 12y ago

I would really like to see any pictures of Symbolics hardware or screenshots of Genera. I used to work with a guy who wrote CAD software on these in the 80s and he made it sound really cool.

bitwize 12y ago

As far back as I can remember, lispm.de was hosted on some guy's personal box, so it was prone to downtime and simply being overwhelmed. Come on, man. We're living in the era of clouds and virtual server images. Servers are cattle, not pets.

q3k 12y ago
> Servers are cattle, not pets. That is for the owner of the server to decide, not an universal truth.
- RX14 12y ago
  I have pet servers! Cuddles a server
- angersock 12y ago
  I suspect a lot of the people who view servers as cattle probably haven't had to maintain bare metal hardware, or do serious ops work. It makes sense that you wouldn't get attached to an EC2 instance--most of the "fun" [sic] has been taken out of it.

lispm 12y ago

The page with lots of images on a tiny ARM board is not made for Hackernews traffic. Not a good idea to submit it to Hackernews. Sorry.

seanmcdirmid 12y ago
Couldn't someone just mirror this?
tempodox 12y ago
Maybe we should start a collection and afford the OP a box that is HN-proof. A Lisp Machine Hall Of Fame should be worth it :-)
eschaton 12y ago
Have you considered hosting the images on imgur or another such site, at least during HN traffic? Until such time as people can reasonably get their hands on OpenGenera (which I gather might now be in the hands of CL-HTTP's author) people are going to be pretty interested in things like this and Kalman Reti's recent YouTube video.
- networked 12y ago
  You could also use CoralCDN (http://www.coralcdn.org/ http://www.coralcdn.org/) for the images on your page, which would mirror them automatically. Unfortunately, if you try to submit a link to *.nyud.net to HN directly it turns out dead.
look_lookatme 12y ago
You can host the images themselves on Imgur.

djfdev 12y ago

The fact that this is broken really says it all

coldtea 12y ago
Really? Like what? You know that that the server is based in some entirely different technology right?

scrumper 12y ago

I came across this a couple of months ago. It's very interesting and worth a look: I'd urge anyone interested to bookmark the page and try again in a few days.

soapdog 12y ago

IIRC that site is hosted on a Raspberry Pi running SBCL and CL-HTTP, if it could handle HN traffic it would be just magical. Since the website is not up I decided to fish for a video showing Open Genera stuff elsewhere to share with you fine folk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4-YnLpLgtk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4-YnLpLgtk Unfortunately there is no easy way for we to play with open genera since its proprietary and expensive. The world would be a better place if this type of system popped up more often. For those interested in Lisp I recommend the book "Land of Lisp" http://landoflisp.com/ http://landoflisp.com/ or if you're more like a Racketeer then "Realm of Racket" http://realmofracket.com/ http://realmofracket.com/

outworlder 12y ago

Aw, come on. Someone please mirror this. I find everything by Symbolics to be fascinating - and decades ahead of its time.

spariev 12y ago

I've made a mirror for the images - http://imgur.com/a/KsSaA http://imgur.com/a/KsSaA and http://imgur.com/a/3BtzZ http://imgur.com/a/3BtzZ