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60 bucks for an editor is quite expensive I think. There are nice alternative to such an editor. I wonder what features makes sublime text so much valuable...

by jokoon 12y ago

jbrooksuk 12y ago
Have you downloaded the "forever-free" trial?
- jokoon 12y ago
  Yes, I use that, but I'd also love to buy just for the sake of it. But 60 is a lot. I guess he just targets developer who are constantly using an editor instead, increasing the price and making that bet. The pop up message must be quite unnerving for heavy users.
  - jbrooksuk 12y ago
    $60 for a tool that you'd probably use every day? Well worth it in my opinion.
    - welly 12y ago
      When people complain about the cost of iPhone and Android apps ("What! This is going to cost me a buck?!") $60 to many people today must seem like an absolute fortune.
phpnode 12y ago
60 bucks is less than an hour's pay for many developers. We're talking about a tool that gets used for > 8hrs/day in many cases. Other industries would DREAM of having tools this cheap! * edited to remove the word "most" which seems to be upsetting some people.
- jokoon 12y ago
  Yes he might target developers who make an everyday use of it, I just use a C++ IDE. I still don't understand what are those features though. Isn't it just good for web/python development ?
  - nicholassmith 12y ago
    No, I use it for C++ development as well as Python and Ruby and I think it's excellent. If I'm using something like Qt or Obj-C I use something with an IDE (mostly for the UI tools), but for everything else it's excellent.
- boobsbr 12y ago
  > 60 bucks is less than an hour's pay for many/most developers WHAT? Where?
  - phpnode 12y ago
    from the top of my head: UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, all of Scandinavia
    - bulte-rs 12y ago
      I don't make 60 bucks an hour (not even 45 euros).. Much sad :(
      - Raphmedia 12y ago
        You may be confusing your salary with what your boss charges clients. Or, it may simply be that you are from somewhere where the economy is different.
        bulte-rs 12y ago
        I know the distinction between the two ;-) While my boss charges something like EUR100 an hour, I make less than 25% of that (after taxes). O.t.o.h.: The salary is quite competitive around here (41k EUR a year, 40hrs/wk, 25 days off)
MattBearman 12y ago
What makes sublime text so valuable is that it saves me at least 30 minutes a day compared to what I used to use, not to mention making web development a much nicer experience. So it more than pays for itself every 2 days, and makes working more enjoyable. I'd happily pay more than $60 for it.
kabdib 12y ago
I'll pay for value. For instance, I've probably sunk $800 into my current editor over the years. It's been completely worth it, and I don't regret a single penny. Another tool (for visual diffing) was about $300, 15 years or so ago. Totally worth it; it's paid for itself many times over. In both cases the open source alternatives were awkward and borderline broken. Sure, I could have saved a few bucks by using them, or even spent some time improving them, but it's just not worth my time. I have other things to do. Agreed that Sublime Text looks like abandonware now. It's a fine editor (not great), and the price seems okay, but I'm guessing there will be a mass exodus when ST 3.0 turns out to be not much better than previous versions.
- rthomas6 12y ago
  What editor?
  - duckmysick 12y ago
    Probably a JetBrains editor. One commercial license for IntelliJ IDEA is one buck shy of $500. If you include the cost of upgrades over the years, it's not that surprising.
  - kabdib 12y ago
    Epsilon (it's an Emacs clone). Was about $300 new, and upgrades over the years were about $100 each. It hasn't been updated in quite some time, but it's a very capable editor, and many of the heavies I've worked with in the past decade or so have also been power-users of it. Epsilon is arguably more abandonware-like than Sublime Text, but it's also a much more mature product (with way better documentation). I'd love to have some new features (multi-window editing would be great, and multi-selections, and support for collapsing regions of text), but on the whole I'm happy with it.
bluedino 12y ago
>> 60 bucks for an editor is quite expensive I think. I remember in the 90's, the big editors Visual SlickEdit and BBEdit were like $200 each!

60 bucks for an editor is quite expensive I think. There are nice alternative to such an editor. I wonder what features makes sublime text so much valuable...

by jokoon 12y ago

60 bucks for an editor is quite expensive I think. There are nice alternative to such an editor. I wonder what features makes sublime text so much valuable...

jbrooksuk 12y ago

Have you downloaded the "forever-free" trial?

jokoon 12y ago
Yes, I use that, but I'd also love to buy just for the sake of it. But 60 is a lot. I guess he just targets developer who are constantly using an editor instead, increasing the price and making that bet. The pop up message must be quite unnerving for heavy users.
- jbrooksuk 12y ago
  $60 for a tool that you'd probably use every day? Well worth it in my opinion.
  - welly 12y ago
    When people complain about the cost of iPhone and Android apps ("What! This is going to cost me a buck?!") $60 to many people today must seem like an absolute fortune.

phpnode 12y ago

60 bucks is less than an hour's pay for many developers. We're talking about a tool that gets used for > 8hrs/day in many cases. Other industries would DREAM of having tools this cheap! * edited to remove the word "most" which seems to be upsetting some people.

jokoon 12y ago
Yes he might target developers who make an everyday use of it, I just use a C++ IDE. I still don't understand what are those features though. Isn't it just good for web/python development ?
- nicholassmith 12y ago
  No, I use it for C++ development as well as Python and Ruby and I think it's excellent. If I'm using something like Qt or Obj-C I use something with an IDE (mostly for the UI tools), but for everything else it's excellent.
boobsbr 12y ago
> 60 bucks is less than an hour's pay for many/most developers WHAT? Where?
- phpnode 12y ago
  from the top of my head: UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, all of Scandinavia
  - bulte-rs 12y ago
    I don't make 60 bucks an hour (not even 45 euros).. Much sad :(
    - Raphmedia 12y ago
      You may be confusing your salary with what your boss charges clients. Or, it may simply be that you are from somewhere where the economy is different.
      - bulte-rs 12y ago
        I know the distinction between the two ;-) While my boss charges something like EUR100 an hour, I make less than 25% of that (after taxes). O.t.o.h.: The salary is quite competitive around here (41k EUR a year, 40hrs/wk, 25 days off)

MattBearman 12y ago

What makes sublime text so valuable is that it saves me at least 30 minutes a day compared to what I used to use, not to mention making web development a much nicer experience. So it more than pays for itself every 2 days, and makes working more enjoyable. I'd happily pay more than $60 for it.

kabdib 12y ago

I'll pay for value. For instance, I've probably sunk $800 into my current editor over the years. It's been completely worth it, and I don't regret a single penny. Another tool (for visual diffing) was about $300, 15 years or so ago. Totally worth it; it's paid for itself many times over. In both cases the open source alternatives were awkward and borderline broken. Sure, I could have saved a few bucks by using them, or even spent some time improving them, but it's just not worth my time. I have other things to do. Agreed that Sublime Text looks like abandonware now. It's a fine editor (not great), and the price seems okay, but I'm guessing there will be a mass exodus when ST 3.0 turns out to be not much better than previous versions.

rthomas6 12y ago
What editor?
- duckmysick 12y ago
  Probably a JetBrains editor. One commercial license for IntelliJ IDEA is one buck shy of $500. If you include the cost of upgrades over the years, it's not that surprising.
- kabdib 12y ago
  Epsilon (it's an Emacs clone). Was about $300 new, and upgrades over the years were about $100 each. It hasn't been updated in quite some time, but it's a very capable editor, and many of the heavies I've worked with in the past decade or so have also been power-users of it. Epsilon is arguably more abandonware-like than Sublime Text, but it's also a much more mature product (with way better documentation). I'd love to have some new features (multi-window editing would be great, and multi-selections, and support for collapsing regions of text), but on the whole I'm happy with it.

bluedino 12y ago

>> 60 bucks for an editor is quite expensive I think. I remember in the 90's, the big editors Visual SlickEdit and BBEdit were like $200 each!