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I use spaced repetition every day for technical knowledge. It's very easy: Every small piece of information that you want to memorize, create a new card. Let

by chipuni 12y ago

I use spaced repetition every day for technical knowledge. It's very easy: Every small piece of information that you want to memorize, create a new card. Let me give some examples from my current technical deck: Q: This is an open source data collection system for monitoring large distributed systems. It's a distributed data collection and analysis system in Hadoop. It runs collectors that store data in HDFS and it uses MapReduce to produce reports. A: Chukwa Q: This is an Apache templating language and processing engine that can be used to generate Java code, HTML, JSP's, Hibernate modules and most anything else that can be generalized. A: Velocity Q: In Ruby, what command lets you determine whether you're running as a main program? A: if __FILE__ == $0 Q: This C++ function rearranges the elements in the range [first, last) into the lexicographically next smaller permutation of elements. A: prev_permutation

a3voices 12y ago
Why would you do that instead of just keeping everything in a notes.txt?
- tedks 12y ago
  Because there's still no good exabrain. Notes.txt quickly becomes an unsearchable, undiscoverable mess of crap; wikis are hard to maintain and too heavyweight; desktop wikis never really work right and usually have shit mobile experiences. In the meantime, to remember a fact for the rest of your life, you need to add it to the SR deck and spend 30 seconds in the rest of your life reviewing it. Spaced repetition is a clear win; any attempt to resist it is madness. Imagine being able to just keep everything in RAM and never, ever touch disk.
- mahmoudimus 12y ago
  Agree with parent. chipuni's strategy seems like trying to pigeonhole a reference when statistically, you're most likely always going to be on a computer and have access to a reference that's searchable.
  - taeric 12y ago
    The advantage for many is the actual physical association. I liken it to learning how to get around a building by actually walking around the building, as opposed to just seeing a map. Ultimately, when there are no other distractions going on, one is probably as good as the other. Not that I don't think you can't get this in a notes.txt. Just, I understand why some would want a physical card deck where they flip a question into an answer. Involving your body seems logical as a benefit for some.
  - sitkack 12y ago
    One needs to have enough context to now how to formulate queries that can get handled by search. Having a larger vocabulary doesn't prevent one from using search, it enables one to look up more relevant information w/o having to rediscover it each time.
- walterbell 12y ago
  Human competitive advantage (creative latency at human timescale) vs. computer/robot algorithm operating at HFT timescale. As for the benefits of human-robot brain-algorithm cooperation (e.g. human+Google), that depends on the level of coherence between the goals of the human and the goals of the creators/financiers of the algorithm.
- chipuni 12y ago
  Mostly, I put into Anki exact words that I need (or needed) to have at the tip of my tongue.
vendakka 12y ago
This is a very nice idea. Thank you! I am currently using spaced repetition to improve my German vocabulary. Using this to remember APIs and technical documentation is a great idea! While there are a number of comments questioning the utility of doing so and comparing it to having notes in a file, the fact that this is stored in my memory reduces latency when thinking or writing code. I no longer have to look things up which really improves my flow. I see the difference whenever I work with an API I already know and one I'm relatively new to. I find that when I have more information in my local storage (memory), I can make more creative associations among the data and come up with better solutions to problems.
taude 12y ago
I do something similar to this as I'm reading a tech book, especially on something new, I build a Q&A of 1) high-level vocabulary 2) some of the finer points that are worth remembering, like maybe language syntax. I ignore the stuff that I'd probably just look up in the future anyway.
Squeezed 12y ago
My biggest roadblock with using Anki is figuring out what exactly is worth typing up into a card, when the material isn't just unrelated discrete items (i.e. vocabulary) that don't stick easily. For example, in lectures I'm usually able to understand most of what is taught on that first exposure, but of course I don't have everything committed to long term memory right away. So, sometimes I'm tempted to write a lot of things down or type them up in Anki (which can get quite tedious). However, in math for instance, you pretty much have to know the exact definitions of theorems to apply them in proofs. Thus you refer back to the textbook or lecture notes/video (if available) when applying a theorem in a problem, and soon you have that definition down cold in memory. Similarly, in courses or subjects where you need to do a lot of problem solving or application, you can look back at source material for concepts or definitions as needed (this itself is probably a form of spaced repetition). In cases where I wrote down detailed notes or entered them into Anki, I find that I probably recorded a lot more than I should have. So how do you figure out what is worth (most efficient) entering into cards in that case?
- tedks 12y ago
  Virtually everything is worth entering into cards. Anki's interface is very tedious, but it's nearly always worth it. Looking back at source material is not a form of spaced repetition. By learning that you don't need to remember it, it's actually harmful for memorization. Trying to remember things without looking them up (really making an effort) is better and can be almost as good if you fit between the spaced repetition intervals, but you might as well systemitize it.

by chipuni 12y ago

a3voices 12y ago

Why would you do that instead of just keeping everything in a notes.txt?

tedks 12y ago
Because there's still no good exabrain. Notes.txt quickly becomes an unsearchable, undiscoverable mess of crap; wikis are hard to maintain and too heavyweight; desktop wikis never really work right and usually have shit mobile experiences. In the meantime, to remember a fact for the rest of your life, you need to add it to the SR deck and spend 30 seconds in the rest of your life reviewing it. Spaced repetition is a clear win; any attempt to resist it is madness. Imagine being able to just keep everything in RAM and never, ever touch disk.
mahmoudimus 12y ago
Agree with parent. chipuni's strategy seems like trying to pigeonhole a reference when statistically, you're most likely always going to be on a computer and have access to a reference that's searchable.
- taeric 12y ago
  The advantage for many is the actual physical association. I liken it to learning how to get around a building by actually walking around the building, as opposed to just seeing a map. Ultimately, when there are no other distractions going on, one is probably as good as the other. Not that I don't think you can't get this in a notes.txt. Just, I understand why some would want a physical card deck where they flip a question into an answer. Involving your body seems logical as a benefit for some.
- sitkack 12y ago
  One needs to have enough context to now how to formulate queries that can get handled by search. Having a larger vocabulary doesn't prevent one from using search, it enables one to look up more relevant information w/o having to rediscover it each time.
walterbell 12y ago
Human competitive advantage (creative latency at human timescale) vs. computer/robot algorithm operating at HFT timescale. As for the benefits of human-robot brain-algorithm cooperation (e.g. human+Google), that depends on the level of coherence between the goals of the human and the goals of the creators/financiers of the algorithm.
chipuni 12y ago
Mostly, I put into Anki exact words that I need (or needed) to have at the tip of my tongue.

vendakka 12y ago

This is a very nice idea. Thank you! I am currently using spaced repetition to improve my German vocabulary. Using this to remember APIs and technical documentation is a great idea! While there are a number of comments questioning the utility of doing so and comparing it to having notes in a file, the fact that this is stored in my memory reduces latency when thinking or writing code. I no longer have to look things up which really improves my flow. I see the difference whenever I work with an API I already know and one I'm relatively new to. I find that when I have more information in my local storage (memory), I can make more creative associations among the data and come up with better solutions to problems.

taude 12y ago

I do something similar to this as I'm reading a tech book, especially on something new, I build a Q&A of 1) high-level vocabulary 2) some of the finer points that are worth remembering, like maybe language syntax. I ignore the stuff that I'd probably just look up in the future anyway.

Squeezed 12y ago

My biggest roadblock with using Anki is figuring out what exactly is worth typing up into a card, when the material isn't just unrelated discrete items (i.e. vocabulary) that don't stick easily. For example, in lectures I'm usually able to understand most of what is taught on that first exposure, but of course I don't have everything committed to long term memory right away. So, sometimes I'm tempted to write a lot of things down or type them up in Anki (which can get quite tedious). However, in math for instance, you pretty much have to know the exact definitions of theorems to apply them in proofs. Thus you refer back to the textbook or lecture notes/video (if available) when applying a theorem in a problem, and soon you have that definition down cold in memory. Similarly, in courses or subjects where you need to do a lot of problem solving or application, you can look back at source material for concepts or definitions as needed (this itself is probably a form of spaced repetition). In cases where I wrote down detailed notes or entered them into Anki, I find that I probably recorded a lot more than I should have. So how do you figure out what is worth (most efficient) entering into cards in that case?

tedks 12y ago
Virtually everything is worth entering into cards. Anki's interface is very tedious, but it's nearly always worth it. Looking back at source material is not a form of spaced repetition. By learning that you don't need to remember it, it's actually harmful for memorization. Trying to remember things without looking them up (really making an effort) is better and can be almost as good if you fit between the spaced repetition intervals, but you might as well systemitize it.