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Incremental GC in Ruby MRI

55 points by mikkelewis 12y ago

tcopeland 12y ago
If you're running Ruby 1.9.3, go upgrade to 2.1.2. It is such an improvement all around - deploy time, restart time, test time, console startup (if you're using Rails), etc. Just a whole different experience. And if you've done a 1.8.7 to 1.9.3 upgrade, going from 1.9 to 2.1 is nothing. Piece of cake by comparison.
- jerhinesmith 12y ago
  If you're on heroku (or similarly memory-constrained VPS), it's worth noting that 2.1+ can use significantly more memory. I've been collecting bookmarks on how to properly tune the GC environment variables in these situations -- hopefully they'll help someone else: Heroku discussion: https://discussion.heroku.com/t/tuning-rgengc-2-1-on-heroku/359/6 https://discussion.heroku.com/t/tuning-rgengc-2-1-on-heroku/... Using Out-of-band GC on 2.1: http://tmm1.net/ruby21-oobgc/ http://tmm1.net/ruby21-oobgc/
  - timr 12y ago
    Maybe this will help someone, as well...we've been trying to collect all of the different tuning and implementation information on the Ruby GC in one place: https://www.omniref.com/ruby/2.1.2/symbols/GC#annotation=88&line=1 https://www.omniref.com/ruby/2.1.2/symbols/GC#annotation=88&...
    - jerhinesmith 12y ago
      That's actually a huge help. What I've also been looking for (and haven't been able to find) is a good guide on How to Tune your GC settings. Aman Gupta has gotten the closest so far* (I think), but I'd really love a step-by-step of "OK, open your console, run `GC.start`, take note of this property because it means X and indicates that Y would be a good setting for Z, etc. etc" * http://tmm1.net/ruby21-rgengc/ http://tmm1.net/ruby21-rgengc/
      - MrBra 12y ago
        It would be interesting or useful to know more about it, but what I think is that ideally a right impementation of a GC should not require any tweeks from the outside... and I am pretty sure you are not going to get any signifcant performance boost by using different GC values than default.
  - joevandyk 12y ago
    I wish there was a "webapp" environment flag you could set that would tell Ruby to apply reasonable GC/memory settings for a larger / constantly running app.
tehprofessor 12y ago
Ruby 2.1's GC is worlds faster, for most applications-- especially with a minor amount of tuning. I saw GC time drop from 20ms to under 5ms (using new relic). Memory usage until GC has gone up a bit though. I can only hope, and have good reason to after 2.1, that future improvements are so good. ... Ruby just gets better by the year, I love it!
ksec 12y ago
Since 2.1 has made dramatic decrease in GC time, now the largest contribution on the NewRelic graphs is in Ruby Interpreter itself. Are there any improvement on that front in Ruby 2.2?
eeeemmm 12y ago
Why not to let the user decide when he wants to achieve full GC (As Passenger is doing it between requests) and so avoid the performance regression this patch brings?

55 points by mikkelewis 12y ago

If you're running Ruby 1.9.3, go upgrade to 2.1.2. It is such an improvement all around - deploy time, restart time, test time, console startup (if you're using Rails), etc. Just a whole different experience. And if you've done a 1.8.7 to 1.9.3 upgrade, going from 1.9 to 2.1 is nothing. Piece of cake by comparison.

jerhinesmith 12y ago
If you're on heroku (or similarly memory-constrained VPS), it's worth noting that 2.1+ can use significantly more memory. I've been collecting bookmarks on how to properly tune the GC environment variables in these situations -- hopefully they'll help someone else: Heroku discussion: https://discussion.heroku.com/t/tuning-rgengc-2-1-on-heroku/359/6 https://discussion.heroku.com/t/tuning-rgengc-2-1-on-heroku/... Using Out-of-band GC on 2.1: http://tmm1.net/ruby21-oobgc/ http://tmm1.net/ruby21-oobgc/
- timr 12y ago
  Maybe this will help someone, as well...we've been trying to collect all of the different tuning and implementation information on the Ruby GC in one place: https://www.omniref.com/ruby/2.1.2/symbols/GC#annotation=88&line=1 https://www.omniref.com/ruby/2.1.2/symbols/GC#annotation=88&...
  - jerhinesmith 12y ago
    That's actually a huge help. What I've also been looking for (and haven't been able to find) is a good guide on How to Tune your GC settings. Aman Gupta has gotten the closest so far* (I think), but I'd really love a step-by-step of "OK, open your console, run `GC.start`, take note of this property because it means X and indicates that Y would be a good setting for Z, etc. etc" * http://tmm1.net/ruby21-rgengc/ http://tmm1.net/ruby21-rgengc/
    - MrBra 12y ago
      It would be interesting or useful to know more about it, but what I think is that ideally a right impementation of a GC should not require any tweeks from the outside... and I am pretty sure you are not going to get any signifcant performance boost by using different GC values than default.
- joevandyk 12y ago
  I wish there was a "webapp" environment flag you could set that would tell Ruby to apply reasonable GC/memory settings for a larger / constantly running app.

tehprofessor 12y ago

Ruby 2.1's GC is worlds faster, for most applications-- especially with a minor amount of tuning. I saw GC time drop from 20ms to under 5ms (using new relic). Memory usage until GC has gone up a bit though. I can only hope, and have good reason to after 2.1, that future improvements are so good. ... Ruby just gets better by the year, I love it!

ksec 12y ago

Since 2.1 has made dramatic decrease in GC time, now the largest contribution on the NewRelic graphs is in Ruby Interpreter itself. Are there any improvement on that front in Ruby 2.2?

eeeemmm 12y ago

Why not to let the user decide when he wants to achieve full GC (As Passenger is doing it between requests) and so avoid the performance regression this patch brings?