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Prostitution and the internet
- ivanca 12y agoSlightly related: the adult business is being rejected by Google play and the app store. I think some big co should sell a modified android phone (like telcos do) with a preinstalled adult app store. Plus it could work for other adult materials such as strong-language comedies and such.
- skrebbel 12y ago"Yeah I'd like that porn phone please" "Sorry, I didn't quite catch that, a torn phone?" "No, the porn phone" "The what phone? We have a great new Samsung Galaxy-" "THE PORN PHONE ALREADY!!"
- john_flintstone 12y agoOnly, that's not how it would be bought. People would buy their porn phone online, just like they buy they porn, and their hookers, and their erotica from Amazon. Nobody (almost) walks into a Walmart to buy porn or hookers - they do so online, where it's all nicely anonymous.
- atmosx 12y agoImagine how disruptive would be for porn, if Amazon decided to enter the business (as a producer).
- Achtaland 12y agoYou have a very curious mind.
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- pmalynin 12y agoOr Netflix.
- uniclaude 12y agoI doubt that Amazon's classic strategy (Your margin is my opportunity) would be that disruptive to pornographic content.
- peterkelly 12y agoThis would ultimately end up in a dispute between Amazon and a major talent agency over pricing. More than 900 prominent porn stars would take out a $100,000 full-page ad in the New York Times to raise awareness of how they are being financially disadvantaged by Amazon's actions in the ongoing dispute.
- rmc 12y agoThere's a lot of erotica on the Kindle store
- SEJeff 12y agoRobot sex?
- afafsd 12y agoMaybe, but you're still walking around with a porn phone in your pocket or next to your ear, marking you out to everyone in the know as the sort of person who is so into internet porn that they're willing to invest money in a device that makes getting internet porn even easier than it already is.
- icebraining 12y agoWhy are you assuming it'd be recognizable? They would just take a popular device model and load it up with a different ROM.
- fencepost 12y agoI think I'd have to reassess my opinions of Walmart if they started to carry porn and hookers in-store. I still wouldn't shop there though.
- myredbookutoo 12y agoWalmart hookers? That's gross.
- dm2 12y agoYou can download other app stores that are usually less strict on the requirements.
- incision 12y ago>'I think some big co should sell a modified android phone (like telcos do) with a preinstalled adult app store.' I expect that selling a porn phone would be like selling vibrators. If you really want to move the later you need to call it a neck massager. I think plausible deniability / actual versatility is key in selling anything for which a big unstated selling point is enabling 'sex'. Porn undoubtedly helped speed the adoption of VCRs and later Internet connected PCs, but they were sold as a way to watch Bambi with the family or for the kids to do homework.
- A_COMPUTER 12y agoI'd call it the phone for grownups, who don't need a nanny appstore or company deciding for them what they can or can't install.
- philip1209 12y agoThe engineering team from PornHub was at GoogleIO this year wearing shirts that said, "10,000,000 downloads and they still won't list us in the Play store." Interestingly, they mentioned that they are now moving all servers and content to Google infrastructure.
- true_religion 12y agoWhy its not as if anything is stopping people from installing 3rd party apps already.
- nailer 12y agoiPhones make it almost impossible for regular users to install apps outside the store.
- true_religion 12y agoTrue but you also can't do what the op said and sell jailbroken iphones with your own appstore included. That's got to be some sort of violation of ToS with Apple.
- pwnna 12y agoI read today that there is already an "adult" store: mikandi (Highly NSFW)
- kelukelugames 12y agoCom'on Windows Phone!
- bjackman 12y agoThis led me to do loads of Googling and stuff. I ended up spending ages reading this forum http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php. Really interesting to get a totally genuine insider's perspective. Seems to me that most of these girls are at the higher "escort" end of the spectrum though as they are mostly charging more than the prices I found on AdultWork (which is kind of like Just Eat but for prostitution. Browse at your peril: http://www.adultwork.com/ http://www.adultwork.com/). Fascinating.
- bluepenguin 12y agoThere's lots of online resources to find sex workers. What website you use, is probably determined by what country you're in. I've never heard of adultwork.com. There are even review sites where users can review - often in unnecessary & very creepy detail - their misadventures. Twitter is also a very useful resource for sex workers and clients. It's a useful way for a worker to promote themselves and for potential clients to get a feel of the person before making a booking. Even in a country where sex work is legal, I feel there is still quite a bit of opportunity to create a better online resource. Especially one that caters to the sex workers more. I feel a lot of websites are too client-centric and not as useful as they could be for client or worker.
- peteretep 12y ago> There are even review sites where users can review - > often in unnecessary & very creepy detail - their > misadventures Do you find detailed reviews of stereos to be creepy? How about a detailed review of a guitar teacher's services? Why is the detail for sex work creepy?
- peterfirefly 12y ago"Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far much more bitter, cynical sense of humor."
- kilroy123 12y agoI'm just imagining what an app/website would be like, if prostitution was legal. You would probably select hair color, bust, age, ethnicity, body type, and see recent test results for STI tests. Then you'd probably get an estimates time when they'd arrive to your place. It would be extremely interesting to see anonymous user data from such a service.
- proksoup 12y agoIt's kind of re assuring that religion and prostitution have such shitty representation ---- kinda says something about those things eh?
- true_religion 12y agoIsn't prostitution legal in Germany? I wonder why it isn't happening there. That said, I think the market for GFE and escorts is the future since legal prostitution means a general depression in prices so its no longer worth it to engage in what's actually a pretty physical activity.
- woah 12y agoFrom the article: > FOR those seeking commercial sex in Berlin, Peppr, a new app, makes life easy. Type in a location and up pops a list of the nearest prostitutes, along with pictures, prices and physical particulars. Results can be filtered, and users can arrange a session for a €5-10 ($6.50-13) booking fee. It plans to expand to more cities.
- uniclaude 12y agoThat sounds quite close to what the article describes as already available.
- rmc 12y agoLook at hook up sites for gay men. It's as close to that as you can get. Dick size, etc
- myredbookutoo 12y agoBesides Adultwork (which is mostly UK), Europe also has http://www.callgirl-list.com/ http://www.callgirl-list.com/ (mostly Germany and Hungary). USA has http://theeroticreview.com/ http://theeroticreview.com/ pity Canada, New Zealand, Australia does not have one or I am unaware of such.
- unclesaamm 12y agoThere's a dark half of this market that wasn't mentioned in the article-- as prostitution moves online, so does human trafficking. Here's a report on the topic: http://technologyandtrafficking.usc.edu/report/ http://technologyandtrafficking.usc.edu/report/
- bluepenguin 12y agoWhich is why prostitution needs to be legalised and regulated and people need to stop stigmatising it. It becomes much less of a problem when the people involved know they have rights and can safely go to the authorities if they need help.
- blumkvist 12y agoProstitution is legal and regulated in The Netherlands. That doesn't seem to help with human trafficking. In fact, it's the top destination for human trafficking according to the UN ODC and it keeps rising. I am not sure, but have a strong feeling that's the case in the other countries where prostitution is legal and/or regulated. Do you care to back up your claim with some evidence or at least shed some light how you came up with it in the first place?
- solanoir 12y agoWhile I agree with your thrust the UN numbers are a joke. They have little factual basis.
- probably_wrong 12y agoI was also relating this topic with the truck drivers discussion[1], where it was pointed out that the drivers themselves ignore the safety rules of their job. Cracked[2] has a similar gem: > Plus, there's a logbook to keep, and regulations that demand that truckers don't drive for longer than 11 hours a day and spend at least 10 hours sleeping. So another big part of trucking is, of course, lying about all that s..t. So it doesn't seem to me that laws are the definite answer to the problem. As a side note, even if there were a legal framework, would a trafficked person have access to it? I doubt traffickers allow their "employees" to have private, uninterrupted talks with the customers (or anyone). Hell, I don't even know how to say "Help, I'm being held against my will" in Dutch. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8158076 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8158076 [2] http://www.cracked.com/article_21488_5-terrifying-things-only-truckers-know-about-highway.html http://www.cracked.com/article_21488_5-terrifying-things-onl...
- vivianward 12y agoWomen are not commodities and the only disruption we should think of in relation to prostitution is how to abolish it. I think anyone who benefits from prostitution should be regarded as a pimp, and that includes programmers who write code to make prostitution "available anytime, anywhere." If you are serious about gender equality and about human rights, please stop for a minute and educate yourselves in relation to the following questions: * Can a teenager truly and freely choose prostitution? Does she have an alternative? Should we allow people to become slaves if they choose to? Should we allow the selling of human organs in the free market? * What are the mortality rates and health risks facing women and men in prostitution? Is it like any other occupation? Does it bear any similarity to a guitar teacher? * Cui bono? Who benefits from prostitution? * Are there any happy stories of people in prostitution? When they share their experiences, what do they tell? How does it feel like to be penetrated 12, 15, 20 times a day? Here are some links to abolitionists sites: http://prostitutionresearch.com/ http://prostitutionresearch.com/ http://www.veronicasvoice.org/ http://www.veronicasvoice.org/ http://abolishprostitutionnow.wordpress.com/ http://abolishprostitutionnow.wordpress.com/ http://www.antipornography.org/ex-porn-star-Vanessa-Belmond.html http://www.antipornography.org/ex-porn-star-Vanessa-Belmond.... http://www.enddemandillinois.org/ http://www.enddemandillinois.org/
- dinkumthinkum 12y agoHow are "relationships" based on money or "sugar daddies" any different than what you describe I think you mean well but you are naively trying to treat prostitution as a simple issue and not see it as a spectrum. Also the arguments are a bit weak, the mortality rates may be higher than a guitar but what about a crab fisherman or police officer? You can be extreme on both sides. You could be so myopically libertarian as to neglect how certain forms of prostitution will affect society but you are on the other side of that extreme.
- vivianward 12y agoThere are some forms of sugar-daddying which are not so different than prostitution. However, women who marry or date wealthy and elderly men do not necessarily commit themselves to prostitution. You are right to argue that there is a spectrum. I do not see how it negates a moral statement against punters. You are also right to argue that I'm on one side of the extreme, it is radical to call for the abolition of prostitution. I do not consider it as a pejorative description. I would just like to remind you that the faction in the antebellum Republican Party who called for the abolition of slavery was called the radical wing, and was considered extremist by Lincoln himself as well as many other northerners who could not imagine the emancipation of the slaves.
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