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Wow. For those needing to support non-SNI browsers, this is going to become a real IPv4 address land-grab. IPv6 is disturbingly uncommon still...

notatoad 12y ago
supporting non-SNI browsers is less common. Over the last two years i've seen a huge drop off in ie8/XP traffic on my sites.
- eli 12y ago
  But did it drop to zero? Are you willing to serve those people a big scary error message?
  - notatoad 12y ago
    it's definitely not zero. as for whether or not i'm willing to serve those people a big scary error message, i'm not sure yet. It's something we're actually going to have to come to a decision on in the next couple weeks though, this isn't a hypothetical for me. a lot of my traffic is repeat, so we'll probably do a good campaign to push users off IE8 this fall and officially declare it unsupported in Nov/Dec.
    - eli 12y ago
      Yeah, I didn't mean for that to come off as flip. We struggle with it too. Unfortunately we've still got 3 or 4 percent IE/XP on some sites, which feels like a lot to lose.
- scott_karana 12y ago
  Android 2.x doesn't support SNI either, it's not just IE. (20% of Android users: https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html) But I agree, it has dwindled rapidly. :-)
  - notatoad 12y ago
    20% of android devices, but definitely not 20% of any website's android traffic. the amount of web traffic that comes from those android phones is approximately 0 unless maybe you're in africa or china - the people who still have android 2.x phones aren't browsing the internet with them.
    - scott_karana 12y ago
      > the people who still have android 2.x phones aren't browsing the internet with them. Not true. Only devices with regular Google Play store access get shown in those statistics. The 20% are users with at least regular Wi-Fi access.

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Wow. For those needing to support non-SNI browsers, this is going to become a real IPv4 address land-grab. IPv6 is disturbingly uncommon still...

by scott_karana 12y ago

notatoad 12y ago
supporting non-SNI browsers is less common. Over the last two years i've seen a huge drop off in ie8/XP traffic on my sites.
- eli 12y ago
  But did it drop to zero? Are you willing to serve those people a big scary error message?
  - notatoad 12y ago
    it's definitely not zero. as for whether or not i'm willing to serve those people a big scary error message, i'm not sure yet. It's something we're actually going to have to come to a decision on in the next couple weeks though, this isn't a hypothetical for me. a lot of my traffic is repeat, so we'll probably do a good campaign to push users off IE8 this fall and officially declare it unsupported in Nov/Dec.
    - eli 12y ago
      Yeah, I didn't mean for that to come off as flip. We struggle with it too. Unfortunately we've still got 3 or 4 percent IE/XP on some sites, which feels like a lot to lose.
- scott_karana 12y ago
  Android 2.x doesn't support SNI either, it's not just IE. (20% of Android users: https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html) But I agree, it has dwindled rapidly. :-)
  - notatoad 12y ago
    20% of android devices, but definitely not 20% of any website's android traffic. the amount of web traffic that comes from those android phones is approximately 0 unless maybe you're in africa or china - the people who still have android 2.x phones aren't browsing the internet with them.
    - scott_karana 12y ago
      > the people who still have android 2.x phones aren't browsing the internet with them. Not true. Only devices with regular Google Play store access get shown in those statistics. The 20% are users with at least regular Wi-Fi access.