> Then don't use xcode as your C++ IDE. if the native IDE is not adequate, I don't think I'll find anything else. Most native apple things are cocoa-centric.

> Then don't use xcode as your C++ IDE. if the native IDE is not adequate, I don't think I'll find anything else. Most native apple things are cocoa-centric. also the last version of Ogre3D engine is not even available, because of XCode and how apple builds its stuff. I hate hacking through galaxies of makefiles. I've lost patience :) It's just exhausting to rebuild everything everytime there's a xcode or OSX upgrade. I'm done. Microsoft supports backward compatility much better.