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I have read both Western and Russian sources on the conflict. Let's just say that I find the Western sources on the matter much, much more trustworthy. It's ve
by lambda 12y ago
I have read both Western and Russian sources on the conflict.
Let's just say that I find the Western sources on the matter much, much more trustworthy. It's very clear that Russia is running a propaganda campaign, which is apparently reasonably effective within Russia but less convincing when you have access to other sources of information.
The Russian propaganda campaign was even fairly effective at spreading the rumor on Western social media that the Ukrainian opposition movement consisted mostly of fascists, when in reality there was a fascist group that was associated with it but a relatively small percentage overall of the opposition to Yanukovych.
After Russia snuck unmarked Russian soldiers into Crimea, which comes dangerously close to counting as perfidy, it was pretty clear that Russia and Russian sources could not be trusted on this matter.
Now, are you trying to claim that Russia did not send troops onto Ukrainian soil to annex Crimea, and is not supporting the separatists in the east with at least arms and training? Or are you trying to claim that doing so is somehow justified, and if so, under what justification?
- mendort 12y agoThe Russians just need a little Lebensraum. The West has continued its policy of containment even after the fall of the Soviet Union. This can be seen in the aggressive expansion of the EU and of NATO. It is necessary that Russia have scope to influence its neighbors and build partnerships in order for it to be a free and prosperous nation.
- adamnemecek 12y agoI can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. I'm guessing yes but the only thing that gave it aways was the use of the word Lebensraum.
- lotsofmangos 12y agoHere's to hoping that history is only rhyming. I do get the feeling that Putin is a bit smarter and a bit less insane, but I would be hesitant to bet on it. The apparent concentration of power in one individual makes Russia scary as hell at the same time as being very brittle.
- donrememberpass 12y agoCrimea is basically Russian, the vast majority of the population identifies themselves as Russian, 77% of the population only speak Russian. It was "given" to Ukraine after the fall of the USSR and was an autonomous region, it was part of Russia for like 200 years. To me, they had the right to "bring back" and protect people that were of their kind, Ukraine government even wanted to ban the Russian language in Ukraine! Let me give you an example, in the south of Latin America there's a kind of country people that share a culture of the same origin and are present in Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay, they are "gaúchos". Lets say tomorrow the north of Brazil takes over and outlaws being gaúcho. Wouldn't the gaúchos in Argentina and Uruguay be right to be against that? Give me a brake. Western corporate media is bullshit factory and propaganda machine, I don't find it trustworthy at all. I'm brasilian, BTW. Also, nobody talks that US is supporting their side with propaganda, money, arms, "military consultancy" since the start of all this. Apparently a USAID "non-profit" even gave out cakes to people during the revolution, how cute! From my point of view, the West side is obscuring facts waaaaaay more, but you can't know without really digging(well, that's the whole point, right?) How about people angry with their government was "the will of people must be respected" 5 months ago, but now people against the new one are "terrorists" and "send the army against them! Here, take some military consultancy". It would funny if it wasn't tragic. Sorry, but it's really easy to expose the USG hypocrisy, turkey anyone?
- twobits 12y agoOh yes, the US, the exporter of freedom and democracy.