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I'd like latency as well as speed. A lot of hotels I have been to have really high ping times.

by alwaysdoit 12y ago

TheLoneWolfling 12y ago
Also: censorship and traffic shaping.
- yaro2 12y ago
  I think traffic shaping would be really nice to detect and report. Something that we will explore once we move beyond HTML5 client.
rlongstaff 12y ago
Maybe the site should use something like http://www.pingtest.net/ http://www.pingtest.net/
- eli 12y ago
  Which, unfortunately, requires Java.
  - CanSpice 12y ago
    Only for packet loss testing. If you don't have Java installed in your browser, you get "Pingtest.net requires Java for packet loss testing, but it does not appear to be installed in your browser. Click here for assistance." The ping and jitter tests still work without Java.
yaro2 12y ago
Yes, latency is very important. We found that there is a strong negative correlation between bandwidth and latency (faster connections tend to have lower response times). That's why we decided to focus on speed first. We are planning to add ping testing as well.
- LukeShu 12y ago
  I'm sure you guys are on it, but: See apenwarr's 'Blip' for checking latency in the browser: https://github.com/apenwarr/blip https://github.com/apenwarr/blip
  - TheLoneWolfling 12y ago
    Locked up FF when I tried it.
    - LukeShu 12y ago
      Really? I've been using it in FF on GNU/Linux since it was announced 2013-04 without any issue (other than switching to a different tab seems to throttle connections). I've got the latest FF 31. What version/OS/graphics do you have?
      - TheLoneWolfling 12y ago
        Got it. It was NoScript: NoScript set to allow scripts globally and it works, set to disable scripts by default and it freezes FF.
- superuser2 12y ago
  I would expect the very slowest connections to be T1s, which have excellent latency (and reliability) but almost no bandwidth. Then DSL/cable connections, with bandwidth between 5 and 100Mbps. Anything 100Mbps or greater would have fiber, with the correspondingly low latency again.
alister 12y ago
Having stayed at a couple of the reviewed hotels in Brazil that get a good rating, you would think everything was fine. But latency is a HUGE problem in Brazil[1], and in probably any country that's far removed from the major backbones. Yes, I can watch Youtube just fine in Brazil but I can't tell you the number of times that Skype video or other highly interactive apps wouldn't start or conk out because of poor latency. The public has no comprehension of latency, but it's really important that this gets factored in somehow, especially for places like Brazil that generally have poor latency. [1] http://brazilsense.com/index.php?title=Wi-Fi_and_Internet_service_in_Brazil http://brazilsense.com/index.php?title=Wi-Fi_and_Internet_se...
- colinbartlett 12y ago
  I am really surprised to hear Brazil is far removed from backbones, being the most populous Latin American county by a massive margin.
  - alister 12y ago
    Brazil is far from the economic center of the Internet. South Korea, a country with 1/4 of the population of Brazil, is probably better connected because it's on the route to Japan, China, etc. Brazil's poor latency may be partly explained by the fact that a lot of their connections have to go through the US and Canada: "The shape of the Internet varies considerably when examining individual regions. In Europe, the majority of cross-border capacity is between European countries, while in Latin America and the Caribbean the majority of international capacity is connected to the U.S. & Canada."[1] "More than 80% of Africa's and Latin America's international Internet bandwidth connect to cities outside their regions. In the case of Latin America, 60% of the region's interregional capacity connects to a single city, Miami."[2] Also, because of Brazil's distance from the economic center of the Internet, they probably don't get the advantage of unpaid peering relationships. [1] http://www.telegeography.com/assets/website/images/maps/global-internet-map-2010/global-internet-map-2010-x.jpg http://www.telegeography.com/assets/website/images/maps/glob... [2] http://www.telegeography.com/assets/website/images/maps/global-internet-map-2012/global-internet-map-2012-x.png http://www.telegeography.com/assets/website/images/maps/glob...

I'd like latency as well as speed. A lot of hotels I have been to have really high ping times.

TheLoneWolfling 12y ago

Also: censorship and traffic shaping.

yaro2 12y ago
I think traffic shaping would be really nice to detect and report. Something that we will explore once we move beyond HTML5 client.

rlongstaff 12y ago

Maybe the site should use something like http://www.pingtest.net/ http://www.pingtest.net/

eli 12y ago
Which, unfortunately, requires Java.
- CanSpice 12y ago
  Only for packet loss testing. If you don't have Java installed in your browser, you get "Pingtest.net requires Java for packet loss testing, but it does not appear to be installed in your browser. Click here for assistance." The ping and jitter tests still work without Java.

yaro2 12y ago

Yes, latency is very important. We found that there is a strong negative correlation between bandwidth and latency (faster connections tend to have lower response times). That's why we decided to focus on speed first. We are planning to add ping testing as well.

LukeShu 12y ago
I'm sure you guys are on it, but: See apenwarr's 'Blip' for checking latency in the browser: https://github.com/apenwarr/blip https://github.com/apenwarr/blip
- TheLoneWolfling 12y ago
  Locked up FF when I tried it.
  - LukeShu 12y ago
    Really? I've been using it in FF on GNU/Linux since it was announced 2013-04 without any issue (other than switching to a different tab seems to throttle connections). I've got the latest FF 31. What version/OS/graphics do you have?
    - TheLoneWolfling 12y ago
      Got it. It was NoScript: NoScript set to allow scripts globally and it works, set to disable scripts by default and it freezes FF.
superuser2 12y ago
I would expect the very slowest connections to be T1s, which have excellent latency (and reliability) but almost no bandwidth. Then DSL/cable connections, with bandwidth between 5 and 100Mbps. Anything 100Mbps or greater would have fiber, with the correspondingly low latency again.

alister 12y ago

Having stayed at a couple of the reviewed hotels in Brazil that get a good rating, you would think everything was fine. But latency is a HUGE problem in Brazil[1], and in probably any country that's far removed from the major backbones. Yes, I can watch Youtube just fine in Brazil but I can't tell you the number of times that Skype video or other highly interactive apps wouldn't start or conk out because of poor latency. The public has no comprehension of latency, but it's really important that this gets factored in somehow, especially for places like Brazil that generally have poor latency. [1] http://brazilsense.com/index.php?title=Wi-Fi_and_Internet_service_in_Brazil http://brazilsense.com/index.php?title=Wi-Fi_and_Internet_se...

colinbartlett 12y ago
I am really surprised to hear Brazil is far removed from backbones, being the most populous Latin American county by a massive margin.
- alister 12y ago
  Brazil is far from the economic center of the Internet. South Korea, a country with 1/4 of the population of Brazil, is probably better connected because it's on the route to Japan, China, etc. Brazil's poor latency may be partly explained by the fact that a lot of their connections have to go through the US and Canada: "The shape of the Internet varies considerably when examining individual regions. In Europe, the majority of cross-border capacity is between European countries, while in Latin America and the Caribbean the majority of international capacity is connected to the U.S. & Canada."[1] "More than 80% of Africa's and Latin America's international Internet bandwidth connect to cities outside their regions. In the case of Latin America, 60% of the region's interregional capacity connects to a single city, Miami."[2] Also, because of Brazil's distance from the economic center of the Internet, they probably don't get the advantage of unpaid peering relationships. [1] http://www.telegeography.com/assets/website/images/maps/global-internet-map-2010/global-internet-map-2010-x.jpg http://www.telegeography.com/assets/website/images/maps/glob... [2] http://www.telegeography.com/assets/website/images/maps/global-internet-map-2012/global-internet-map-2012-x.png http://www.telegeography.com/assets/website/images/maps/glob...