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I'm also a bit worried about the privacy implications of this. Especially given that the feature is hidden, and the only two ways to turn it off involve going i

I'm also a bit worried about the privacy implications of this. Especially given that the feature is hidden, and the only two ways to turn it off involve going into about:config, which most people don't even know exists. I wouldn't even know it was doing this if I hadn't read the changelog. Reading the changelog, it also mentions having local and remote blacklists, but how FF chooses which one to use wasn't clear to me. Local blacklists are not as scary to me for obvious reasons. Being able to use this without the remote blacklist would be nice. I would really love some additional info on this feature from Mozilla, as well as a more user-friendly way of disabling it.

yellowapple 12y ago
> and the only two ways to turn it off involve going into about:config, which most people don't even know exists. There's a third way according to the feature's development documentation [0]: uncheck "Options"/"Preferences" -> "Security" -> "Block reported attack sites". [0]: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Features/Application_Reputation_Design_Doc https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Features/Application_Reput...
rockdoe 12y ago
It's in the documentation: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Features/Application_Reputation_Design_Doc https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Features/Application_Reput... 1) Check local blacklist 2) Check local whitelist 3) If no hits on either, check remote service
Istof 12y ago
It seems like the last few updates of Firefox are each hiding yet one more important setting... I think that is what will finally drive me away from Firefox (I've used it since the beginning even if chrome was much faster for a while) ... time to browser shop.
- magicalist 12y ago
  They might be "hiding" the setting by not including it in the main settings page, but there is no other (mainstream) browser with anything close to the equivalent of the flexibility of about:config.
  - Istof 12y ago
    yes, but they also change about:config "Preference Names" possibly to confuse users so that they stop messing with settings? for example the preference name for the number of lines scrolled when using the mousewheel used to be "mousewheel.withnokey.numlines", I believe it is now "mousewheel.acceleration.factor" ... I didn't keep track of all the changes, but I am sure that there is many others.
  - Avshalom 12y ago
    Though judging by the logic espoused in the tab-close-button bug step one is to move it to about:config and then step two is removing it all together for not being discoverable enough.
    - Dylan16807 12y ago
      Well that's a GUI thing, so it's still available via CSS. Annoying to get to, but configurable.
- Pacabel 12y ago
  There's no "seems" about it. Useful functionality has been obscured or removed from Firefox time and time and time and time again since Firefox 4 and their rush to imitate Chrome. It isn't a new problem at this point; it has been happening for years now, and people have been angered by it for years now, too. It's a shame that your comment has been voted down, as well. The more that the Firefox community goes out of its way to deny that users are unhappy, or even to censor them like in this case, the harder it will be for Mozilla to remain relevant. Firefox is pretty much Mozilla's only semi-successful offering at this point, and even its market share has been steadily dropping (it's probably well under 20% by now). If this slide continues, nobody will have any reason to listen to Mozilla. Their influence over the web, already waning, will unfortunately become non-existent.
- im3w1l 12y ago
  Which settings are needed to make firefox preserve my privacy (if there are more things )?

yellowapple 12y ago

> and the only two ways to turn it off involve going into about:config, which most people don't even know exists. There's a third way according to the feature's development documentation [0]: uncheck "Options"/"Preferences" -> "Security" -> "Block reported attack sites". [0]: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Features/Application_Reputation_Design_Doc https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Features/Application_Reput...

rockdoe 12y ago

It's in the documentation: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Features/Application_Reputation_Design_Doc https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Features/Application_Reput... 1) Check local blacklist 2) Check local whitelist 3) If no hits on either, check remote service

Istof 12y ago

It seems like the last few updates of Firefox are each hiding yet one more important setting... I think that is what will finally drive me away from Firefox (I've used it since the beginning even if chrome was much faster for a while) ... time to browser shop.

magicalist 12y ago
They might be "hiding" the setting by not including it in the main settings page, but there is no other (mainstream) browser with anything close to the equivalent of the flexibility of about:config.
- Istof 12y ago
  yes, but they also change about:config "Preference Names" possibly to confuse users so that they stop messing with settings? for example the preference name for the number of lines scrolled when using the mousewheel used to be "mousewheel.withnokey.numlines", I believe it is now "mousewheel.acceleration.factor" ... I didn't keep track of all the changes, but I am sure that there is many others.
- Avshalom 12y ago
  Though judging by the logic espoused in the tab-close-button bug step one is to move it to about:config and then step two is removing it all together for not being discoverable enough.
  - Dylan16807 12y ago
    Well that's a GUI thing, so it's still available via CSS. Annoying to get to, but configurable.
Pacabel 12y ago
There's no "seems" about it. Useful functionality has been obscured or removed from Firefox time and time and time and time again since Firefox 4 and their rush to imitate Chrome. It isn't a new problem at this point; it has been happening for years now, and people have been angered by it for years now, too. It's a shame that your comment has been voted down, as well. The more that the Firefox community goes out of its way to deny that users are unhappy, or even to censor them like in this case, the harder it will be for Mozilla to remain relevant. Firefox is pretty much Mozilla's only semi-successful offering at this point, and even its market share has been steadily dropping (it's probably well under 20% by now). If this slide continues, nobody will have any reason to listen to Mozilla. Their influence over the web, already waning, will unfortunately become non-existent.
im3w1l 12y ago
Which settings are needed to make firefox preserve my privacy (if there are more things )?