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The Web Never Forgets: Persistent Tracking Mechanisms In The Wild
- PeterWhittaker 12y agoResearch like this makes me question why I use a cookie manager. Staying ahead of these intrusions takes more time than I have available (job, life, etc.) and a cookie manager is no longer the bare minimum. In fact, I'm not sure what the bare minimum is anymore, nor do I know whether or not a cookie manager even makes a dent in privacy intrusions.
- logicallee 12y agoa VM still seems pretty good? what are they gonna do, benchmark it? (yes.) it's also super quick to install and update. just snapshot before browsing anything and restore to there. you can install anything you like, before browsing anything (flash etc). there's no logical way to save any state if you throw away the hard drive snapshot.
- yourad_io 12y agoWhile this is probably very close to foolproof, it is just insane that our best method to accomplish "DNT" is to... throw away all changes at an OS level :| It is incredibly alarming to consider how much control over our own damned gear we've lost over the past 10-15 years.
- anonymousDan 12y agoCould you do it using a docker container for your web browser instead?
- U2EF1 12y agoYou could run something like TAILS in a VM or docker, I guess.
- e28eta 12y agoExcept the canvas fingerprint wouldn't change
- schoen 12y agoThis change is partly because of web developers' push for a "richer" and more full-featured -- that is, closer to native code parity -- web platform. There's a spectrum in terms of how conscious web developers and web standards developers may have been of the privacy risks (and many people in W3C committees have worked hard to remove fingerprinting risks from their specs before deployment), but there's been a steady tension between privacy and new functionality for web developers in the web platform. Of course, things don't have to have been designed as tracking mechanisms in order to end up as tracking mechanisms. One of my favorite (?) examples is HSTS, which can be used as a cookie because you can tell a browser to load 00001.example.com, 00100.example.com, and 01000.example.com securely (while not mentioning 10000.example.com or 00010.example.com). Then if you tell a browser to load one-pixel images from the HTTP versions 00001, 00010, 00100, 01000, and 10000.example.com, you can see which subdomains it adds the HTTPS on and which it doesn't. (This risk is mentioned in section 14.9 of RFC 6797.) An important historical example that stuck around for a long time was the CSS history bug (Javascript in a web page could query to see if a link's style had changed to match the style of a visited link). An example that shows completely unintended tracking consequences were sneaking into web protocols a long time ago was Martin Pool's "meantime", described back in 2000. (He has a broken link that suggests that someone may have expressed concern about this back in 1995.) http://sourcefrog.net/projects/meantime http://sourcefrog.net/projects/meantime And there are a lot of unintended browser fingerprinting effects from various UA properties that sites can ask about using Javascript: https://panopticlick.eff.org/ https://panopticlick.eff.org/ It's apparently possible to break many of these tracking methods, as the Tor Browser systematically tries to do, but you have to give up a lot of local history and a bit of web platform functionality. https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser/design/#Implementation https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser/design/#Imple... Given what I've heard about web developer pushback against fixing the CSS history query bug, I'm scared to imagine the response to trying to mainstream some of the Tor Browser's fixes in popular browsers!
- yuliyp 12y agoWe're in a state right now where if you are doing anything that suggests you're willing to spend money on a specific set of things, you have to do it in a private browsing window or put up with retargeting for weeks. Kind of sad.
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- antocv 12y agoIts kind of sad that when you actually want to spend money on specific things, you're met with puke upon puke of advertising, forums infested, reviews scammed, its a hellhole just to finda good router for example. I guess its an effect of having much money or people willing to potentially spend money in one giant network - internet. You just cant make a review site or forum which is immune to scamming, that is when sellers start hiring people to puppet around their marketing message.
- peteretep 12y ago> its a hellhole just to finda good router for example Unless you think Amazon is compromised, it's pretty easy to search on there, and order by average customer rating. That's pretty much the only way I buy things now.
- antocv 12y agoThe prices on Amazon are very different from the country I actually order from.
- emn13 12y agoAmazon's product search must be a textbook example of dysfunctional. I always search elsewhere first, because unless I know exactly what I want (or am just browsing), it's hardly possible to narrow down based on product characteristics (there are a few filters, but far to few to really work well).
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- dan_bk 12y agoIt's a cat-and-mouse game, for the time being. Until there's a real solution, use the available tech: https://prism-break.org/en/ https://prism-break.org/en/
- bsilvereagle 12y agoHTTPSwitchBoard [1] seems to a decent job of blocking most (not all) of these methods. I currently have it configured to only allow scripts from the domain I'm visiting and quite a few of the methods mentioned rely on scripts/cookies hosted by third party websites. Granted, switchboard is far from foolproof but it's a step in the right direction. [1] https://github.com/gorhill/httpswitchboard https://github.com/gorhill/httpswitchboard
- BoppreH 12y agoI'm still waiting for a Firefox version, especially to avoid Adblocks's overhead. I currently have Privoxy installed as a replacement, but it's too cumbersome.
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- tomsthumb 12y agoThere's always the RequestPolicy plugin, though it does not appear quite as nuanced.
- XzetaU8 12y agoRandom Agent Spoofer is another great tool for blocking browser fingerprinting https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/random-agent-spoofer/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/random-agent-... (git version is newer https://github.com/dillbyrne/random-agent-spoofer https://github.com/dillbyrne/random-agent-spoofer) Always in conjunction with the classic recipe ABP+NoScript.
- joosters 12y agoIn Firefox, install Self Destructing Cookies, BetterPrivacy and Ghostery. Ghostery will blacklist most of these tracker sites, the other two plugins should do their best at removing all traces of those that get through.
- antocv 12y agoWhat can be done about the Canvas security vulnerability?
- woogley 12y agoBrowsing with NoScript, while inconvenient, offers safe-by-default browsing for cases like these. If I see a site I actually want to interact with, I'll fire up a different browser profile and look at it there. If it's a site I want to use regularly, I just add to NoScript's whitelist.
- fencepost 12y agoAdding RequestPolicy on as well increases the inconvenience factor somewhat, but also dramatically cuts down on the chances of issues. The biggest headaches I've run into so far with it are sites that use multiple cloudfront addresses or that pull in required content from host or domain names that don't bear any resemblance to the original site. I can figure out if I'm on "chicagotribune.com" that "trbimg.com" and "trb.com" are probably related to it, but there are a lot of sites where there's no clear name relationship.
- x1798DE 12y agoI've been using NoScript for several months now. Seemed crazy at first, but now it doesn't really feel all that inconvenient. If anything, I just tend to get upset with the serious proliferation of needless Javascript out there. I understand why you need Javascript to make a full-featured web-app like GMail or Facebook, but most of the time it's being used in place of CSS for simple layout placement or something. I'm also somewhat shocked at how much JS seems to be directly included from a third-party domain. Again, I understand why you'd want a separate domain for some things (many larger sites tend to have some JS hosted on the main domain and some offloaded to a CDN domain, for example), but a shocking amount of sites are offloading basic design elements of their site to some Google Ajax server for whatever reason.
- pronoiac 12y agoPrivacy Badger - https://www.eff.org/privacybadger https://www.eff.org/privacybadger - might be able to help. It's like Disconnect or Ghostery, but based on behavior, rather than a blacklist.
- lifeisstillgood 12y agoTl;dr wow, just wow. So we have three fingerprint mechanisms: One I had not even heard of or frankly suspected, but it explains a lot about why many designers who strive for pixel perfection are constantly frustrated. The original paper is fascinating (cseweb.ucsd.edu/~hovav/dist/canvas.pdf) but one simple takeaway - testing 300 different user systems (Mechanical Turk - quite clever) a simple sentence in Arial rendered 50 different ways! So by combining different renderings (like sentences, drawing a line on a canvas element) they find that user systems - hardware, drivers etc, give off different results unique enough to tag you. I would be interested in their results on iPhones (in fact any one interested in a quick experiment here in HN?) And cookies - the synching cookies where fucking trackers collaborate and share / copy each other's ids, and ever cookies where they store a cookie in JavaScript/cookie and anywhere else and keep respawning. Little fuckers I propose two solutions: Cookies should be limited to no more than 128bits - enough to store one randomly generated UUID. Screw the backward compatibility. And we should be able to only allow signed hashed JavaScript to run on our machines. For example I want to only allow say bootstrap and some overlay and a config or data file. No one gets to run unsigned js on my machine? Have I just reinvented Microsoft code signing? But boy I am in a bad mood
- Terr_ 12y agoDoes anyone else wish all these smarts people bake into per-browser plugins... could instead be part of a localhost proxy? Then the browser-plugin component could be entirely optional, just a more-convenient way to command the proxy (via some HTTP call that it recognizes and intercepts) to block a given URL or pattern.
- MichaelGG 12y agoHow does that work with SSL?
- tokenizerrr 12y agoProxy does SSL checking, browser trusts proxy's CA certificate, requests are re-signed on the fly.
- mirkules 12y agoThis is more difficult with mobile devices, and also doesn't it display warning dialogs?
- tokenizerrr 12y agoThe warning dialogs do not display if you add the authority certificate used by the proxy to your trust store, and the proxy properly re-signs everything.
- MichaelGG 12y agoHow do you distinguish between eg EV SSL versus non-EV?
- tokenizerrr 12y agoThat may indeed be a problem. Could use an out-of-browser gui, or possibly configure your browser to trust your own CA as a CA capable of EV somehow, and stick your own EV id in the generated certificate. I dont think this is configurable in most common browsers at the moment, though.
- joosters 12y agoDoes this technique work for iOS? There just aren't that many varients of iOS devices, and you can already tell them apart by other browser settings. Safari on iOS will have the same hardware, renderer and fonts as every other user with the same iOS version and device type. So surely it can't track an individual user?
- Someone1234 12y agoThe "Evercookies" are one of the many advantages of turning "Click to Play" on for all browser extensions (but most notably flash and java). Both Internet Explorer and Chrome have supported "Click to play" natively since forever. Only Firefox shamefully doesn't. Unlike many other security measures it is pretty intuitive. Just click on the applets you wish to load or unblock them like a pop-up blocker from the URL bar. In Chrome you can also whitelist entire domains like this: [*.]youtube.com However be careful not to go too whitelist crazy, as I think this article makes clear a lot of those "Share this" applets are tracking you and many otherwise innocent sites host them.
- huhtenberg 12y ago> Only Firefox shamefully doesn't. Of course it does. It had "Ask to activate" option for every plug-in since some mid-20s release if not earlier.
- T-hawk 12y agoAs with most user-friendly browser innovations, it was Opera that did it first. I was using it as early as 2001 for its ability to easily turn off annoying Flash content unless specifically requested. It wasn't quite as simple as click-to-play or controllable per site until a few versions later; it was an application-wide toggle to enable plugins or not, but always very easy to use just one click away on the right-click quick preference menu.
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- mseebach 12y agoWhy are there "subtle differences in the rendering of the same text" when rendering on a canvas? I get how there can be differences between different browsers and even different builds of the same browser, but what more plays in? How many bits for identification does this actually provide?
- richdougherty 12y agoThey use WebGL to render text. The OS, browser and video card can produce different pixel values. See Pixel Perfect: Fingerprinting Canvas in HTML5 (http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~hovav/papers/ms12.html http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~hovav/papers/ms12.html).
- userresu 12y agoseems like this (and many other tracking mechanisms) can be stopped by using a blacklisting HOSTS file, like http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm
- BrandonMarc 12y agoThe EFF has a good write-up about this, too. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/white-house-website-includes-unique-non-cookie-tracker-despite-privacy-policy https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/white-house-website-in... Big takeaway is to avoid AddThis.com, and that NoScript - along with other tools - is an effective defense. It's also noteworthy how this is at odds with the White House's own policy on cookies. The White House cookie policy notes that, “as of April 18, 2014, content or functionality from the following third parties may be present on some WhiteHouse.gov pages,” listing AddThis. While it does not identify which pages, we have yet to find one without AddThis, whether open or hidden. On the same page that is loading the AddThis scripts, the White House third-party cookie policy makes a promise: “We do not knowingly use third-party tools that place a multi-session cookie prior to the user interacting with the tool.” There is no indication that the White House knew about this function before yesterday's report. As usual, Bruce Schneier (and his commenters) has a useful thread on the topic: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/07/fingerprinting_.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/07/fingerprintin...