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An excellent demonstration of how, sometimes, erroneous but entrenched beliefs take decades, generations, to overturn. Next up in the list of stubborn myths pe
by sho 17y ago
An excellent demonstration of how, sometimes, erroneous but entrenched beliefs take decades, generations, to overturn.
Next up in the list of stubborn myths people grew up with and find hard to set down: obesity is caused by excessive caloric intake.
- tumult 17y agoSo I can eat all the cheeseburgers I want now? Totally ready to start, just give me the thumbs up.
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- sho 17y agoSure you can. But you can't have the buns, fries, or non-diet drink ..
- tumult 17y agoOr the ketchup :)
- jasonkester 17y agoAtkins? Seriously? 5 years later? In theory, sure, we're with you. But in practice, Atkins is a diet for fat people. If you're 250 pounds and you want to get down to 230 and stay there, Atkins is your huckleberry. We all know plenty of fat people who are noticeably less fat thanks to low-carb diets, but I can't think of anybody I know who used to be fat and is now thin because of one. If you're 250 pounds and you want to get down to 170 and stay there, it seems that "eat less and exercise" is still your best bet.
- Aevin1387 17y agoSee Jimmy Moore: http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/?page_id=2464 http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/?page_id=2464 and there are a lot more examples. Myself, I have gone down from 290 pounds to 225 low-carbing, and I am still losing weight. Also, Atkins is just one type of low-carb diet, and a rather strict one at that. It is because of how strict it is that people tend to fail a little ways in
- pbhjpbhj 17y agoIsn't low-carb just a mechnism for creating a low-calorie diet though?
- ahoyhere 17y agoNo, it's not. Low calorie diets don't tend to create ketosis and if you start eating too few calories on Atkins, you will stop losing weight. (I speak from experience. Had to make myself eat more. Funny, huh?)
- stonemetal 17y agoLast time I checked the two weren't mutually exclusive. Going low sugar is good for you. Eating less is good for you and getting off your rear is good for you. One of them isn't the solution at the expense of the other two.
- fatdog789 17y agoWith a proper diet, you wouldn't be eating the burger to begin with... Atkins is a diet for people who insist on eating the wrong foods. It attempts to minimize the harm of eating crap without actually encouraging the dieter to eat healthy stuff.
- electromagnetic 17y agoI lost 20 lbs while eating two big macs almost everyday. It just so happened that I was probably burning near 5,000 calories a day when I happened to lose the weight. You could sit down and eat a jar of sugar if you wanted, you'd just have to be burning that many calories.
- science4sail 17y agoObesity is usually caused by excessive caloric intake of some sort; the energy used to generate the additional fat tissue has to come from somewhere. Of course, the definition of excessive probably varies from person to person based on many factors...
- pradocchia 17y agoIn his defense, the composition of those calories by macronutrient, along with fiber and micronutrients, probably has a lot to do with how the body processes them. Popular and dare I say scientific understanding of the subject does seem rather simplistic.
- jstevens85 17y agoCan you link to any academic papers that dispute that?
- ahoyhere 17y agoa) known fact: insulin spikes cause more calories to be converted to fat, even when the same amounts of calories are consumed b) even diet soda can cause insulin spikes, causing rats and calves to gain more weight on the same # of calories as rats/calves not consuming diet soda There are links off the wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_soda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_soda There have also been lots of books written about the insulin response and weight gain, all citing studies, all pointing out that insulin resistance/syndrome x play roles in making some people fatter even if they do not overeat. Gary Taubes' is especially good. I don't know why nerds seem to want to persist in believing that a calorie is a calorie is a calorie, despite all the evidence. In my mind, it's like a nasty twist on "tough love" -- people want to believe it because they want to believe that fat people are bad and weak, and therefore deserve what they get. By taking a hard line approach, they can feel... virtuous. But the body is extremely complex, and a tightly-coupled system at that, with so many variables that it is vanishingly unlikely that we can categorically say that there is one simple, clear, clean fact that rules it all.
- fatdog789 17y agoA calorie is a calorie is a calorie. Because a calorie is a measurement of the potential energy of a quantity of food. The type of food is what makes a difference. Fatty foods are worse than the same caloric-quantity of fibrous foods (i.e., fruits and veggies). And there's plenty of research to suggest that food in - food burned by activity (inc. exercise) - undigestable food = food stored as fat.
- ahoyhere 17y agoA calorie is a calorie in a beaker in a lab, but not in the human body. You should read the things I've referenced.
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