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I like the concept, but posting this type of video on Hacker news is going to question the core technology vs the pitch. The way it is demonstrated makes it see
by cix 12y ago
I like the concept, but posting this type of video on Hacker news is going to question the core technology vs the pitch. The way it is demonstrated makes it seem as if the card itself has flash memory, and has a wireless receiver. So basically from what I can devise. Each card has a unique code that basically accesses cloud storage that logs your ip address and location on use, that is understandable (or is it just a site redirect). But, I am a little confused by the core technology of your supposed wireless feature, what am I missing here?
- cix 12y agoOK I see you indicated it is using NFC. But all the iPhone models from what I know of don't even have NFC, let alone instant response from their proximity.
- cix 12y agoCorrected myself yet again, it seems you are not using a iPhone in the demo. I haven't ever used a Android with NFC before, does it really react instantly when certain proximity with a NFC chip as shown?
- abritishguy 12y agoYes
- cix 12y agoDoesn't keeping that "sniffing" make the system fundamentally insecure. Considering someone could bring a NFC chip nearby your device that redirects to a url extension that pulls a malicious script?
- Joe_iP 12y agoCix, it is possible, but keep in mind in order for the NFC to transmit you literally have to be on top of the device and positioned just right. NFC is the most secure and convenient way to transmit information without an application. A good example of NFC in real world point-of-sale applications is Mastercard/Visa Paypass solutions.
- cix 12y agoAlright well, good luck guys. Hacker news guys are going to rip you apart even if it's a good idea, the general public may find a greater use for this. That being said I would create a more approachable video for Kickstarter, like the ones used in "Solar Fricken' Roadways" and "Coin". Basically the video will sell it more than anything else.
- eli 12y agoYes, Android has a service that's always listening for NFC and can pass it off to an app... if NFC is enabled. On my phone it was disabled by default.
- cix 12y agoAlso what type of cost will be associated with these type of NFC chips, I can't assume a mass production of these would be inexpensive with those chips. Wouldn't just keeping the USB with the printed metallic ink and a QR code be more economical for mass production? Or will you have two separate models perhaps?
- eli 12y agoI've seen NFC stickers retail for around $0.50 each.
- kevin_iP 12y agoKevin from intelliPaper here. We offer two separate formats of SwivelCard. NFC is a really good fit for some markets, and other markets don't have the adoption. By including NFC as a premium option, we can reduce the cost of just the USB experience and offer it for less.
- shyn3 12y agoIntriguing product. Where can I get a sample?
- bravo22 12y agoGiven that at the end of the day even their USB link is basically a unique code that goes to a website -- thus you can change the content whenever you want -- I don't see why this couldn't be done with a $0.05 NFC sticker and a QR code? Why the USB part?
- kevin_iP 12y agobravo22, Kevin from intelliPaper here. GREAT point. (and if you have a link the 5 cent NFC tags, I'd love to see it...) "Why the USB part?" Because it is ubiquitous, and easy to use. While there are aspects of what SwivelCard offers that does do not rely on USB - Consider if an audience does not have a QR or NFC reader. Sure, you can print a unique URL on the artwork and encourage them to type it in... Conversations will increase in value if there are easy ways of extending them in a meaningful way. This is what SwivelCard is about. For a person looking to extend a valuable conversation, the ROI on SwivelCard is very high.