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“Everybody wants to put 3-D on a smartphone” Question is whether people will want to use 3-D on a smartphone. We may be hitting a saturation point where curren

“Everybody wants to put 3-D on a smartphone” Question is whether people will want to use 3-D on a smartphone. We may be hitting a saturation point where current generation(s) have absorbed enough change, and we may have to wait for the next generation, growing up with "a Cray 2 in your pocket" to be ready for the next big step.

dm2 12y ago
I would like to have one, or at least a 3-D desktop display. One without 50 Amazon apps trying to constantly sell me things would be preferred. Aren't modern smartphones far more powerful than a Cray 2?
- sp332 12y ago
  In raw processing power, yes. Cray 2 had 1.9 Gflops, modern Snapdragon CPUs have 12! And the visualization capabilities are far beyond that, with Tegra 4 GPUs at something like 75 Gflops.
  - agumonkey 12y ago
    Millions and Cray2x10 running right now doing nothing. Sad.
    - dm2 12y ago
      Why is it sad? It would render mobile devices useless to run distributed computing on them because the battery would last very little time. Excess capacity is a good thing, especially when it's cheap and available to everyone. Just for comparison, a single Titan Z GPU can preform at 8 TeraFlops, 4000 times that of a Cray 2.
      - agumonkey 12y ago
        I know, I was overly ranty (especially considering the battery factor). Still I'm amazed on how much computing capacity people have and is still perceived as 'not enough'.
- ctdonath 12y ago
  I'd like one too. Everyone thinks they one one. Until they see one, then don't. Compare the Amazon Fire Phone. It's got that "3D-ish" display, which is about as close to having a 3D display as you can get without quite going there - and it was received with a resounding "meh."
bitJericho 12y ago
You go ahead and wait I'm ready!
delecti 12y ago
I think it'll come down to creating a compelling use-case that makes the technology stick and not just flash in the pan.
- wlievens 12y ago
  Porn and Games, I guess?
anigbrowl 12y ago
They will. It's one of those things that people don't know they want until they have it. Nobody is asking for it, but the minute they see it in the real world they will pull out their wallets so fast it will tear their pockets open.
- jotm 12y ago
  Like HD audio phone calls? The ones lucky to try it complain that the sound "is too clear" or that it "sounds weird" :-)
  - Domenic_S 12y ago
    I'd settle for speakerphones and conference bridges that sound good.
    - vram22 12y ago
      I'd settle for reliable, fast, cheap Internet everywhere :)
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- freehunter 12y ago
  That's exactly what everyone did with 3D TVs... do they still make those?
  - anigbrowl 12y ago
    3d TVs (and HD audio) are like an inferior analogue of something else. While I could see people eventually getting used to the audio, the TV thing hasn't caught on because it's not that great and there's no content (I described in another post on this thread how content creation will go for holograms). The thing is that 3d for movies etc. hasn't been done very well. Avatar is still the high water mark in terms of technical polish, but in general it has only been used to build up special effects a little, and there's no visual grammar in the way that one exists for the frame itself. It doesn't add a whole lot extra to the film experience, and it adds even less to the TV experience. Few games were developed to take advantage of the technology, which was a mistake. Projected holograms, however, combine very well with interactive applications. At a later stage you may well see narrative art in hologram form, which could lead to a revival of theatrical performance for a mass audience, but that's 10 years off.
higherpurpose 12y ago
I remember a few years ago, before Apple launched the iPad, I thought this is the "twist" Apple would do for its tablet. I knew the technology must be years away, but I thought if Apple was working on it, perhaps they could've done it years before. Today, after seeing all the 3D movies, parallax screens, and dynamic perspective stuff, I think I'll pass. It will just be a gimmick.
amrrs 12y ago
After watching this tell me whether you want Holograph or not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAJrrQzBs_Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAJrrQzBs_Y

dm2 12y ago

I would like to have one, or at least a 3-D desktop display. One without 50 Amazon apps trying to constantly sell me things would be preferred. Aren't modern smartphones far more powerful than a Cray 2?

sp332 12y ago
In raw processing power, yes. Cray 2 had 1.9 Gflops, modern Snapdragon CPUs have 12! And the visualization capabilities are far beyond that, with Tegra 4 GPUs at something like 75 Gflops.
- agumonkey 12y ago
  Millions and Cray2x10 running right now doing nothing. Sad.
  - dm2 12y ago
    Why is it sad? It would render mobile devices useless to run distributed computing on them because the battery would last very little time. Excess capacity is a good thing, especially when it's cheap and available to everyone. Just for comparison, a single Titan Z GPU can preform at 8 TeraFlops, 4000 times that of a Cray 2.
    - agumonkey 12y ago
      I know, I was overly ranty (especially considering the battery factor). Still I'm amazed on how much computing capacity people have and is still perceived as 'not enough'.
ctdonath 12y ago
I'd like one too. Everyone thinks they one one. Until they see one, then don't. Compare the Amazon Fire Phone. It's got that "3D-ish" display, which is about as close to having a 3D display as you can get without quite going there - and it was received with a resounding "meh."

bitJericho 12y ago

You go ahead and wait I'm ready!

delecti 12y ago

I think it'll come down to creating a compelling use-case that makes the technology stick and not just flash in the pan.

wlievens 12y ago
Porn and Games, I guess?

anigbrowl 12y ago

They will. It's one of those things that people don't know they want until they have it. Nobody is asking for it, but the minute they see it in the real world they will pull out their wallets so fast it will tear their pockets open.

jotm 12y ago
Like HD audio phone calls? The ones lucky to try it complain that the sound "is too clear" or that it "sounds weird" :-)
- Domenic_S 12y ago
  I'd settle for speakerphones and conference bridges that sound good.
  - vram22 12y ago
    I'd settle for reliable, fast, cheap Internet everywhere :)
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freehunter 12y ago
That's exactly what everyone did with 3D TVs... do they still make those?
- anigbrowl 12y ago
  3d TVs (and HD audio) are like an inferior analogue of something else. While I could see people eventually getting used to the audio, the TV thing hasn't caught on because it's not that great and there's no content (I described in another post on this thread how content creation will go for holograms). The thing is that 3d for movies etc. hasn't been done very well. Avatar is still the high water mark in terms of technical polish, but in general it has only been used to build up special effects a little, and there's no visual grammar in the way that one exists for the frame itself. It doesn't add a whole lot extra to the film experience, and it adds even less to the TV experience. Few games were developed to take advantage of the technology, which was a mistake. Projected holograms, however, combine very well with interactive applications. At a later stage you may well see narrative art in hologram form, which could lead to a revival of theatrical performance for a mass audience, but that's 10 years off.

higherpurpose 12y ago

I remember a few years ago, before Apple launched the iPad, I thought this is the "twist" Apple would do for its tablet. I knew the technology must be years away, but I thought if Apple was working on it, perhaps they could've done it years before. Today, after seeing all the 3D movies, parallax screens, and dynamic perspective stuff, I think I'll pass. It will just be a gimmick.

amrrs 12y ago

After watching this tell me whether you want Holograph or not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAJrrQzBs_Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAJrrQzBs_Y