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Corporate decision makers give not two shits about public opinion as far as software go; if that were the case the enterprise software wouldn't have the horrend

Corporate decision makers give not two shits about public opinion as far as software go; if that were the case the enterprise software wouldn't have the horrendous, dreadful UIs it has. They surely read the excuses of trade magazines in IT, but those will care more about the next version of Oracle Financials or .NET with the same or more importance than a partnership with Apple. Honestly, this is popular just because it suck ups to Apple fans who feel they have something to prove by Apple's involvement in the enterprise.

_pmf_ 12y ago
> if that were the case the enterprise software wouldn't have the horrendous, dreadful UIs it has Yeah, god forbid companies developing applications that are more complex than Silicon Valley's ephemeral, featureless und useless Twitter clones where a big button "I'm special" is enough to satisfy all needs of their teenage customers.
- danudey 12y ago
  It's not a question of 'complexity' vs. 'this app does nothing'. It's a question of usability. I've dealt with a lot of enterprise software which is almost impossible for people to use, and which has features to make life easier that no one knows about because the UI is so inscrutable and nonsensical. It's possible to make complex, enterprise software while at the same time making good software; it just rarely happens.
sanmon3186 12y ago
Enterprises carrying half a century old legacy systems can't keep pace with public opinion that changes with changing technologies. It takes a decade to refresh the platforms once built in enterprise and going faster only adds to their legacy.
throwawayaway 12y ago
I totally agree with the gist of what you are saying. Also to be fair, I think it's the first time the present generation of Apple fans have been the target/victim of IBM's highly effective sales and marketing team - who in my view do a great job. I can remember more than a few occasions where I got swept up by IBM marketing hype and then the terrible disappointment when it came to using the actual product.
rmrfrmrf 12y ago
The number 1 most valuable publicly traded company in the world is teaming up with number 24 (and number 4 in tech). Corporate decision makers will be hearing/talking about this for months.
- Daishiman 12y ago
  That is peanuts when compared to the cumulative value of all of IBM's customers. In terms of plain capital management, the insurers and reinsurers that are have been their customers for the past 5 decades manage amounts of capital that are much greater than Apple's assets, or any other tech company on its own. Seriously, people have no idea of the staggering involvement IBM has in their lives, to a much greater extent than probably any other IT company in the world.

_pmf_ 12y ago

> if that were the case the enterprise software wouldn't have the horrendous, dreadful UIs it has Yeah, god forbid companies developing applications that are more complex than Silicon Valley's ephemeral, featureless und useless Twitter clones where a big button "I'm special" is enough to satisfy all needs of their teenage customers.

danudey 12y ago
It's not a question of 'complexity' vs. 'this app does nothing'. It's a question of usability. I've dealt with a lot of enterprise software which is almost impossible for people to use, and which has features to make life easier that no one knows about because the UI is so inscrutable and nonsensical. It's possible to make complex, enterprise software while at the same time making good software; it just rarely happens.

sanmon3186 12y ago

Enterprises carrying half a century old legacy systems can't keep pace with public opinion that changes with changing technologies. It takes a decade to refresh the platforms once built in enterprise and going faster only adds to their legacy.

throwawayaway 12y ago

I totally agree with the gist of what you are saying. Also to be fair, I think it's the first time the present generation of Apple fans have been the target/victim of IBM's highly effective sales and marketing team - who in my view do a great job. I can remember more than a few occasions where I got swept up by IBM marketing hype and then the terrible disappointment when it came to using the actual product.

rmrfrmrf 12y ago

The number 1 most valuable publicly traded company in the world is teaming up with number 24 (and number 4 in tech). Corporate decision makers will be hearing/talking about this for months.

Daishiman 12y ago
That is peanuts when compared to the cumulative value of all of IBM's customers. In terms of plain capital management, the insurers and reinsurers that are have been their customers for the past 5 decades manage amounts of capital that are much greater than Apple's assets, or any other tech company on its own. Seriously, people have no idea of the staggering involvement IBM has in their lives, to a much greater extent than probably any other IT company in the world.