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Pay for GitHub with PayPal

48 points by xkarga00 12y ago

joelg236 12y ago
I wonder if anyone will use this. Seems like paypal is no longer the defacto standard for payment as it once was.
- Hovertruck 12y ago
  Still quite useful internationally I believe, for countries where credit/debit cards aren't commonly used.
- pling 12y ago
  I'll use it. I take a lot of payments from eBay via PayPal so I might as well just zap it from there rather than wait for it to clear into my bank.
- jcampbell1 12y ago
  I accept paypal for my SaaS site, and I absolutely hate their system. The IPN system is painful. I spent months playing whack-a-mole trying to figure out how to correctly handle the 20 or so different transaction types. I use paypal often as a user, and I love it. For recurring billing, I can cancel the service at PayPal and I don't have to worry about some site losing my credit card information to hackers. I also don't have to freak out when my credit card expires and worry that I am going to lose all my data at github if I miss the email.
  - zhengyi13 12y ago
    I used to work at PayPal (6+ years ago), specifically in Merchant Technical Support. Speaking strictly for myself, I hated IPNs too, and having come from another payment gateway with a similarly unreliable out-of-band notification system, I was always mystified as to why folks would build whole fulfillment systems around them. I mean, I know the API-based product is more expensive, but this is your business, right? If you have any kind of significant volume, I would think the reliability of straight API calls would make the additional cost well worth it.
- TimFogarty 12y ago
  Perhaps... but they've made some seriously good acquisitions with Braintree and Venmo that will mean they'll stay relevant.
- tokenizerrr 12y ago
  It's better than credit cards outside America. Still awful, though.
- ROFISH 12y ago
  Personally, I trust paying a person via Paypal vs. a generic credit card form. Or anything really that doesn't let me trust you with my 16+3 digits that grants full access to drain my credit.
  - taylorwc 12y ago
    Agree, but reluctantly. Given Paypal's horrendous history of freezing funds and poor customer support, I use it only when I have serious doubts about a site's generic form.
    - Afforess 12y ago
      Paypal has great customer support if you are a consumer, it is only sellers that have issues. And usually it is because someone thinks it is a good idea to use Paypal as a donation processor (which it is NOT meant for) and are surprised when they get into trouble.
  - zengr 12y ago
    Agree, I my credit card recently got expired and I had to update it in every single website - github, comcast etc. I just connected PayPal with Github and I will just need to update it in one place now.
- cleverjake 12y ago
  fwiw - I have worked at a number of sites, and all that implemented paypal saw a non trivial conversion bump, some into the double digits, percentage wise. Audience wasn't developers ever, though.
- yen223 12y ago
  Paypal is currently supported in far far more countries than most of their competitors[0][1][2]. Paypal is here to stay for a while. [0] https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/country-worldwide https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/country-worldwide [1] https://support.stripe.com/questions/what-countries-does-stripe-support https://support.stripe.com/questions/what-countries-does-str... [2] https://www.braintreepayments.com/faq#international https://www.braintreepayments.com/faq#international
- jhonovich 12y ago
  We recently added PayPal as an additional option beyond credit cards and, in the first month, ~15% of all signups used PayPal.
- bbwharris 12y ago
  Its truly to best international option out there. And a lot of people only trust paypal.
- justinpaulson 12y ago
  I see people using paypal more and more. It is a lot easier to remember your paypal information than a credit card number. Especially when that number is likely to change with the amount of fraud that goes on in that realm.
kvakvs 12y ago
Something is very not right here. A pop up DIV (not a window) with login to Paypal. That's wrong from so many points of view.
tokenizerrr 12y ago
Looking at the actual payment process it seems you get an iframe embedded within the github page that asks for your credentials. It's not possible for users to verify that the iframe actually belongs to paypal without looking at the source (it doesn't, it actually belongs to https://assets.braintreegateway.com/ https://assets.braintreegateway.com/ and it POSTs there too). If this was any less reputable website implementing this it would look really, really shady. It also doesn't help with that we've been training users to check the URL bar before filling in their credentials, which won't help at all now.
- pbcoronel 12y ago
  Hey I'm Pedro, one of the developers at Braintree who built this. We are actively working on this. Initial integrations pointed to a Braintree domain, but any new merchant who integrates PayPal via Braintree will be using a PayPal domain. GitHub will do so shortly.
  - tokenizerrr 12y ago
    That's good, but I think the user needs a way to confirm that the pop-in is actually served by paypal, and that that is where their credentials will go. As it is now, what will stop me from faking one of these forms, making it look totally legit, but instead sending the logins to my own server?
    - justinpaulson 12y ago
      What would ever have stopped you from doing that? What will stop you from doing that in the future?
      - tokenizerrr 12y ago
        Uh, the fact that normal paypal integrations redirect you to a https://paypal.com https://paypal.com page that has paypal.com in the url bar, and a green mark for an ssl certificate that says "Paypal, Inc [US]"? Which we have trained everyone to look out for.
nodesocket 12y ago
Honestly I know it will probably never happen, but it would be awesome if Stripe added PayPal integration. That way we can accept credit cards like we already do, but also accept PayPal using a single unified API. A lot of our international users want to pay with PayPal instead of credit cards. International credit cards also have a high tendency to decline.
- dev_cheese 12y ago
  Have you thought about switching to Braintree to provide that functionality to your customers?
  - nodesocket 12y ago
    We love Stripe, and don't want to migrate. Plus we use http://hookfeed.com http://hookfeed.com for Stripe analytics.
JamesBaxter 12y ago
Hopefully this means I won't have to pay £1.61 in bank transfer fees every month.
- Someone1234 12y ago
  I don't understand why you would anyway. There are a shed load of UK credit cards which don't charge a currency conversion fee. Here's a list of them: http://www.money.co.uk/credit-cards/credit-cards-with-no-foreign-transaction-fees.htm http://www.money.co.uk/credit-cards/credit-cards-with-no-for... I've used a Halifax one before and never paid for paying in USD.
rwinn 12y ago
WikiLeaks... never forget
nayefc 12y ago
Funny how Braintree had to build that for PayPal :)
- dangrossman 12y ago
  Braintree is a division of PayPal.
cgcardona 12y ago
<insert snarky bitcoin comment here>
funkyy 12y ago
I would love to see GitHub actually keeping PP off the site and not putting money in their pockets. I am bit disappointed to see such an innovative and open source company not directly supports one of the most shady corporations around.
musx 12y ago
any plans to accept bitcoin or SEPA?

48 points by xkarga00 12y ago

joelg236 12y ago

I wonder if anyone will use this. Seems like paypal is no longer the defacto standard for payment as it once was.

Hovertruck 12y ago
Still quite useful internationally I believe, for countries where credit/debit cards aren't commonly used.
pling 12y ago
I'll use it. I take a lot of payments from eBay via PayPal so I might as well just zap it from there rather than wait for it to clear into my bank.
jcampbell1 12y ago
I accept paypal for my SaaS site, and I absolutely hate their system. The IPN system is painful. I spent months playing whack-a-mole trying to figure out how to correctly handle the 20 or so different transaction types. I use paypal often as a user, and I love it. For recurring billing, I can cancel the service at PayPal and I don't have to worry about some site losing my credit card information to hackers. I also don't have to freak out when my credit card expires and worry that I am going to lose all my data at github if I miss the email.
- zhengyi13 12y ago
  I used to work at PayPal (6+ years ago), specifically in Merchant Technical Support. Speaking strictly for myself, I hated IPNs too, and having come from another payment gateway with a similarly unreliable out-of-band notification system, I was always mystified as to why folks would build whole fulfillment systems around them. I mean, I know the API-based product is more expensive, but this is your business, right? If you have any kind of significant volume, I would think the reliability of straight API calls would make the additional cost well worth it.
TimFogarty 12y ago
Perhaps... but they've made some seriously good acquisitions with Braintree and Venmo that will mean they'll stay relevant.
tokenizerrr 12y ago
It's better than credit cards outside America. Still awful, though.
ROFISH 12y ago
Personally, I trust paying a person via Paypal vs. a generic credit card form. Or anything really that doesn't let me trust you with my 16+3 digits that grants full access to drain my credit.
- taylorwc 12y ago
  Agree, but reluctantly. Given Paypal's horrendous history of freezing funds and poor customer support, I use it only when I have serious doubts about a site's generic form.
  - Afforess 12y ago
    Paypal has great customer support if you are a consumer, it is only sellers that have issues. And usually it is because someone thinks it is a good idea to use Paypal as a donation processor (which it is NOT meant for) and are surprised when they get into trouble.
- zengr 12y ago
  Agree, I my credit card recently got expired and I had to update it in every single website - github, comcast etc. I just connected PayPal with Github and I will just need to update it in one place now.
cleverjake 12y ago
fwiw - I have worked at a number of sites, and all that implemented paypal saw a non trivial conversion bump, some into the double digits, percentage wise. Audience wasn't developers ever, though.
yen223 12y ago
Paypal is currently supported in far far more countries than most of their competitors[0][1][2]. Paypal is here to stay for a while. [0] https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/country-worldwide https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/country-worldwide [1] https://support.stripe.com/questions/what-countries-does-stripe-support https://support.stripe.com/questions/what-countries-does-str... [2] https://www.braintreepayments.com/faq#international https://www.braintreepayments.com/faq#international
jhonovich 12y ago
We recently added PayPal as an additional option beyond credit cards and, in the first month, ~15% of all signups used PayPal.
bbwharris 12y ago
Its truly to best international option out there. And a lot of people only trust paypal.
justinpaulson 12y ago
I see people using paypal more and more. It is a lot easier to remember your paypal information than a credit card number. Especially when that number is likely to change with the amount of fraud that goes on in that realm.

kvakvs 12y ago

Something is very not right here. A pop up DIV (not a window) with login to Paypal. That's wrong from so many points of view.

tokenizerrr 12y ago

Looking at the actual payment process it seems you get an iframe embedded within the github page that asks for your credentials. It's not possible for users to verify that the iframe actually belongs to paypal without looking at the source (it doesn't, it actually belongs to https://assets.braintreegateway.com/ https://assets.braintreegateway.com/ and it POSTs there too). If this was any less reputable website implementing this it would look really, really shady. It also doesn't help with that we've been training users to check the URL bar before filling in their credentials, which won't help at all now.

pbcoronel 12y ago
Hey I'm Pedro, one of the developers at Braintree who built this. We are actively working on this. Initial integrations pointed to a Braintree domain, but any new merchant who integrates PayPal via Braintree will be using a PayPal domain. GitHub will do so shortly.
- tokenizerrr 12y ago
  That's good, but I think the user needs a way to confirm that the pop-in is actually served by paypal, and that that is where their credentials will go. As it is now, what will stop me from faking one of these forms, making it look totally legit, but instead sending the logins to my own server?
  - justinpaulson 12y ago
    What would ever have stopped you from doing that? What will stop you from doing that in the future?
    - tokenizerrr 12y ago
      Uh, the fact that normal paypal integrations redirect you to a https://paypal.com https://paypal.com page that has paypal.com in the url bar, and a green mark for an ssl certificate that says "Paypal, Inc [US]"? Which we have trained everyone to look out for.

nodesocket 12y ago

Honestly I know it will probably never happen, but it would be awesome if Stripe added PayPal integration. That way we can accept credit cards like we already do, but also accept PayPal using a single unified API. A lot of our international users want to pay with PayPal instead of credit cards. International credit cards also have a high tendency to decline.

dev_cheese 12y ago
Have you thought about switching to Braintree to provide that functionality to your customers?
- nodesocket 12y ago
  We love Stripe, and don't want to migrate. Plus we use http://hookfeed.com http://hookfeed.com for Stripe analytics.

JamesBaxter 12y ago

Hopefully this means I won't have to pay £1.61 in bank transfer fees every month.

Someone1234 12y ago
I don't understand why you would anyway. There are a shed load of UK credit cards which don't charge a currency conversion fee. Here's a list of them: http://www.money.co.uk/credit-cards/credit-cards-with-no-foreign-transaction-fees.htm http://www.money.co.uk/credit-cards/credit-cards-with-no-for... I've used a Halifax one before and never paid for paying in USD.

rwinn 12y ago

WikiLeaks... never forget

nayefc 12y ago

Funny how Braintree had to build that for PayPal :)

dangrossman 12y ago
Braintree is a division of PayPal.

cgcardona 12y ago

funkyy 12y ago

I would love to see GitHub actually keeping PP off the site and not putting money in their pockets. I am bit disappointed to see such an innovative and open source company not directly supports one of the most shady corporations around.

musx 12y ago

any plans to accept bitcoin or SEPA?