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> pling: Or you could just stop using the tools that incriminate you? Voting with your feet works pretty well. What a stupid thing to say. Are you seriously s

by nodata 12y ago

> pling: Or you could just stop using the tools that incriminate you? Voting with your feet works pretty well. What a stupid thing to say. Are you seriously suggesting that people "just" opt-out of modern life?

pling 12y ago
Is that modern life? No it's a prescribed vision by a few corporate entities. Modern life isn't dependent on a computer in your hand 24 hours a day. Smart phones are pretty much like cigarettes that don't kill you (well unless you walk in front of a bus whilst checking twitter). Living without them is just as easy as living with them and a whole lot cheaper and without the monkey on your back.
- Dylan16807 12y ago
  It looked like you were calling 'photos' and 'browsing history' things that incriminate you and should be done without. Which is a pretty radical position. If you were just talking about having those on a phone you seem to be missing the point; those things should be off-limits without a warrant, doesn't matter where the personal computer is. Either way the cost/benefit of a phone is not really on topic. But I'm curious how a phone is a 'monkey on your back' when you have no obligation to check or respond to anything. And you can get a nice phone with data service for a lower cost than a solid wired internet connection.
  - pling 12y ago
    Well it all depends on the context which is the issue. The context is defined by what you were doing and what they thought you were doing arbitrarily merged together by the better wrangler of words. If you are doing something criminal or something borderline which may incriminate you, the best thing to do is not carry the phone which is my point. However, the monkey on your back is when it becomes an entertainment and communication portal for everything replacing other forms of communication. At that point you rely on it too much. I see this so many times a day it's incredible. It's not paranoia on my part but more that I create more things, communicate more deeply and enjoy life more now I have a shitty Nokia and less "services" to consume. Everyone wants a slice of my attention these days. After some deep thought, they're not welcome to it as it's only finite.
Spooky23 12y ago
If I were a drug dealer, I would take the advice of fictional 1960s mobsters in Goodfellas, and not use the phone.
- jeremysmyth 12y ago
  and more recently Marlowe's crew in The Wire.

by nodata 12y ago

pling 12y ago

Is that modern life? No it's a prescribed vision by a few corporate entities. Modern life isn't dependent on a computer in your hand 24 hours a day. Smart phones are pretty much like cigarettes that don't kill you (well unless you walk in front of a bus whilst checking twitter). Living without them is just as easy as living with them and a whole lot cheaper and without the monkey on your back.

Dylan16807 12y ago
It looked like you were calling 'photos' and 'browsing history' things that incriminate you and should be done without. Which is a pretty radical position. If you were just talking about having those on a phone you seem to be missing the point; those things should be off-limits without a warrant, doesn't matter where the personal computer is. Either way the cost/benefit of a phone is not really on topic. But I'm curious how a phone is a 'monkey on your back' when you have no obligation to check or respond to anything. And you can get a nice phone with data service for a lower cost than a solid wired internet connection.
- pling 12y ago
  Well it all depends on the context which is the issue. The context is defined by what you were doing and what they thought you were doing arbitrarily merged together by the better wrangler of words. If you are doing something criminal or something borderline which may incriminate you, the best thing to do is not carry the phone which is my point. However, the monkey on your back is when it becomes an entertainment and communication portal for everything replacing other forms of communication. At that point you rely on it too much. I see this so many times a day it's incredible. It's not paranoia on my part but more that I create more things, communicate more deeply and enjoy life more now I have a shitty Nokia and less "services" to consume. Everyone wants a slice of my attention these days. After some deep thought, they're not welcome to it as it's only finite.

Spooky23 12y ago

If I were a drug dealer, I would take the advice of fictional 1960s mobsters in Goodfellas, and not use the phone.

jeremysmyth 12y ago
and more recently Marlowe's crew in The Wire.