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You do not get to decide whether your past acts are relevant to me, or aren't. It's that simple.

by thrownaway2424 12y ago

wombosi 12y ago
I do not get to decide the boundaries of my own privacy? Is that right? So who decides that for me? You?
- HenryMc 12y ago
  As long as the content is allowed by law to be published, you have to right to expect privacy.
  - wombosi 12y ago
    The EU ruling is not about publishing, so your comment is a non sequitur. The EU ruling concerns Google's search index. That's something completely different.
buro9 12y ago
Nothing about the judgement denies you this (did you read it?). If you are a European citizen then you have whatever are the rights granted you by your country and wider EU law to request information about other citizens at the moment in time that you make the enquiry. It might be that this grants you access to past acts, and it might be that this does not grant you access to past acts. And in the vast majority of cases the person you are requesting info about doesn't determine what you can access, the law does. The law already does dictate whether past acts are relevant to you or not. It's the timeliness that is important here, not who says what. Time allows people to move on with their lives and put some aspects of their past behind them (where it's the right thing to do for the rest of society). Google failed here, because they accessed information at the time they were able to do so, but then permanently stored it and made it available. The judgement tells Google not to do this (the make available step), so that the enquirer needs to go to the source of the data and ask "at that moment in time", and thus whatever laws apply to deny or grant you this access is applied. That is all... your rights are unaffected and all the person being enquired about did is say "you should go back to the source to ask this".
- Oletros 12y ago
  > Google failed here, because they accessed information at the time they were able to do so, The information is accessible right now and if you search that diary you will find that information without stating any point in time
werzmx 12y ago
>You do not get to decide whether your past acts are relevant to me, or aren't. It's that simple. No, but I get to decide what my government allows a foreign company to do with data about me. In this case, I'm glad the law gives me more protection from a US company than the US law gives its own citizens.

You do not get to decide whether your past acts are relevant to me, or aren't. It's that simple.

wombosi 12y ago

I do not get to decide the boundaries of my own privacy? Is that right? So who decides that for me? You?

HenryMc 12y ago
As long as the content is allowed by law to be published, you have to right to expect privacy.
- wombosi 12y ago
  The EU ruling is not about publishing, so your comment is a non sequitur. The EU ruling concerns Google's search index. That's something completely different.

buro9 12y ago

Nothing about the judgement denies you this (did you read it?). If you are a European citizen then you have whatever are the rights granted you by your country and wider EU law to request information about other citizens at the moment in time that you make the enquiry. It might be that this grants you access to past acts, and it might be that this does not grant you access to past acts. And in the vast majority of cases the person you are requesting info about doesn't determine what you can access, the law does. The law already does dictate whether past acts are relevant to you or not. It's the timeliness that is important here, not who says what. Time allows people to move on with their lives and put some aspects of their past behind them (where it's the right thing to do for the rest of society). Google failed here, because they accessed information at the time they were able to do so, but then permanently stored it and made it available. The judgement tells Google not to do this (the make available step), so that the enquirer needs to go to the source of the data and ask "at that moment in time", and thus whatever laws apply to deny or grant you this access is applied. That is all... your rights are unaffected and all the person being enquired about did is say "you should go back to the source to ask this".

Oletros 12y ago
> Google failed here, because they accessed information at the time they were able to do so, The information is accessible right now and if you search that diary you will find that information without stating any point in time

werzmx 12y ago

>You do not get to decide whether your past acts are relevant to me, or aren't. It's that simple. No, but I get to decide what my government allows a foreign company to do with data about me. In this case, I'm glad the law gives me more protection from a US company than the US law gives its own citizens.