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Direct link to the Keynote youtube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLJPvx7-ys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLJPvx7-ys
by kyrra 12y ago
Direct link to the Keynote youtube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLJPvx7-ys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLJPvx7-ys
- dublinben 12y agoOddly, their live streaming does not work without Adobe Flash. It absolutely refuses to load anything in Chromium, even though it supports every single HTML5 format that YouTube offers. I would have expected better from Google in 2014.
- toomuchtodo 12y agoHTML5 doesn't support live streaming [1]. You need either Flash or HLS support (i.e. iOS/Safari). Disclaimer: I work in the video space. [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21921790/best-approach-to-real-time-http-streaming-to-html5-video-client http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21921790/best-approach-to...
- dublinben 12y agoLive streaming is possible with WebRTC, as sites like Appear.in demonstrate. It might not literally be "HTML5" but it isn't Flash.
- rockdoe 12y agoHTML5 doesn't support live streaming That's a very bad way of stating it. It's perfectly possible, and "supported" even though there is no "use this thing" solution for it. The problem is that you can't rely on a full solution being usable by all browsers you want to target.
- joezydeco 12y agoAereo (RIP) streamed live television over HTML5.
- toomuchtodo 12y agoLet's not write them off yet. As I've posted in the other HN thread about them, they just need to pivot.
- chris_mahan 12y agoWe need http-streaming in html5 VLC supports it, why not the browsers?
- 0x006A 12y agoYou can do WebM live streaming.
- x0054 12y agoWhy hasn't HLS caught on more broadly? From what I know it's not licensed / patented by apple. Many Flash players implement it, and overall its a great way of delivering video over HTTP.
- toomuchtodo 12y agoIts encumbered by being an Apple standard (NIH). Adobe is pushing HDS, and Google is pushing an open standard called MPEG-DASH. They all do the same thing fundamentally; the only differences are slight technical details and who is in control of the standard.
- makomk 12y agoIt appears to have interoperability issues. The Apple livestreams certainly never seem to play reliably in non-Apple HLS clients.
- micampe 12y agoI’m watching it in Safari without Flash installed.
- rockdoe 12y agoI'm guessing the problem is that it's encoded in H264, which isn't available in Chromium due to patents.
- dublinben 12y agoChromium can definitely play H.264 with no problem. All three videos on this page[0] play perfectly, as do all other HTML5 YouTube videos.[1] [0]http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/graphics/videoformatsupport/default.html http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/graphics/videoformatsuppor... [1]https://www.youtube.com/html5 https://www.youtube.com/html5 - This shows 6/6
- rockdoe 12y agoI'm a bit shocked that this works even on Debian. I don't understand how it is possible without Debian violating the patents.
- keeperofdakeys 12y agoChromium uses ffmpeg to decode h264. In fact, they even include ffmepg in the chromium source tarball.