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I'm pretty sure the poor child's situation is a direct result of a flash bang 'distractionary device' being thrown into his crib by law enforcement. The suspect

by jmccree 12y ago

I'm pretty sure the poor child's situation is a direct result of a flash bang 'distractionary device' being thrown into his crib by law enforcement. The suspect was NOT in the house, and they found NO DRUGS in the house. As for having a semi-auto firearm, um every other single house in Habersham county probably has one or more semi-autos, big deal. This was a poor family in a bad situation, that the poorly trained sheriff's office "swat team" made worse. It must be nice to never associate with criminals. For many poor families, this is not an option as the only uncle who will let you stay for free with him after your house burns down, just happens to sell some meth on the side. Is one grenaded baby worth finding even 100lbs of meth? Not to me. It's certainly not worth mauling a baby to find no drugs.

pbhjpbhj 12y ago
>Is one grenaded baby worth finding even 100lbs of meth? Not to me. // Does it matter if the meth might be causing far more pain to more people? This https://www.google.com/search?q=mother+on+meth+kills+child https://www.google.com/search?q=mother+on+meth+kills+child gives a lot of pretty stark reading material.
- spacemanmatt 12y ago
  Does it matter if your death will moderately increase the happiness of a room full of bunnies? The group-ethics model has some pretty obvious limits, which I think you've violated in your example.
  - pbhjpbhj 12y ago
    100lb (~45kg) at 50mg is about 900,000 doses of meth. I suspect the death rate per 900,000 doses is quite high and the expected outcome probably includes the death of at least one child. In my question I'm asking if a simplistic comparative harm analysis would perhaps weigh in favour of non-terminal injury to an infant. It's a very difficult question, of course, and a true analysis couldn't be so simplistic (what proportion of those 900k doses would get replaced by alternate supplies for example). But raising the question seems valid.
- johngalt 12y ago
  How many fewer people are doing meth because of this raid?

by jmccree 12y ago

pbhjpbhj 12y ago

>Is one grenaded baby worth finding even 100lbs of meth? Not to me. // Does it matter if the meth might be causing far more pain to more people? This https://www.google.com/search?q=mother+on+meth+kills+child https://www.google.com/search?q=mother+on+meth+kills+child gives a lot of pretty stark reading material.

spacemanmatt 12y ago
Does it matter if your death will moderately increase the happiness of a room full of bunnies? The group-ethics model has some pretty obvious limits, which I think you've violated in your example.
- pbhjpbhj 12y ago
  100lb (~45kg) at 50mg is about 900,000 doses of meth. I suspect the death rate per 900,000 doses is quite high and the expected outcome probably includes the death of at least one child. In my question I'm asking if a simplistic comparative harm analysis would perhaps weigh in favour of non-terminal injury to an infant. It's a very difficult question, of course, and a true analysis couldn't be so simplistic (what proportion of those 900k doses would get replaced by alternate supplies for example). But raising the question seems valid.
johngalt 12y ago
How many fewer people are doing meth because of this raid?