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To change status quo you need to provide enough value to motivate that change: Google Search: Search experience was completely disrupted. Since that moment peo

To change status quo you need to provide enough value to motivate that change: Google Search: Search experience was completely disrupted. Since that moment people could focus on what they needed (no disturbing ads) and be more efficient. Gmail: Google innovated and simplified a lot email experience. You can easily measure the importance of Gmail to people by the importance of Gmail to the Google brand. Chrome: As an early adopter, I could feel specially the speed difference. I always knew that would be a matter of time till Chrome control the market. Google+: I never understood what value Google was adding to social networks. Facebook at the time didn't need to be disrupted also. After some time G+ went in the direction of Linkedin but couldn't add enough value to make people to change also. IMHO Google+ weakens Google brand. As simple as that. Should be closed? That is a good question.

vidarh 12y ago
Facebook needed to be disrupted, but unfortunately the main way Facebook needed (and needs) to be disrupted is in compartmentalising sharing better, and while Circles accomplishes some of that, Googles real name policy pisses all over it.
- galfarragem 12y ago
  As a user of Facebook and Linkedin I'm only moderately happy with the experience but I can't see myself changing soon. I would be happy to change to one social network that could "compartmentalize sharing better" (using your words) and be used for both social and work issues. If they could add some twitter functionality would be a plus. Is not efficient using different platforms all the time, would be easier to have one platform with different "modes". There is plenty of space to disrupt the market but the status quo here is very strong. The problem is not if somebody changes or not, the problem is that everybody needs to change in mass or the network will be useless.
sumedh 12y ago
Add Google Buzz, Orkut, Google Wave, Google Talk, Hangouts. Its like Google is trying everything and hoping something would stick.
- galfarragem 12y ago
  You don't see Apple making that. They focus on few things and make them great.
  - Sanddancer 12y ago
    My apple developer account name has @mac.com in it. Apple does plenty of throwing things against the wall to see what sticks.
  - matwood 12y ago
    Like Ping? Every company has failures. Apple is much more secretive about what it is trying whereas Google is more open. As such the public sees all the 'beta' Google products, many of which will be closed down. There are benefits to both approaches.
saraid216 12y ago
> I never understood what value Google was adding to social networks. For me, the value was "intelligent conversation". It basically replaced HN for me until they changed the UI to be photo-centric and carded. Ironically, it was when I added an HN circle that my signal-to-noise ratio dropped. > Facebook at the time didn't need to be disrupted also. Facebook has needed disruption since 2008.

vidarh 12y ago

Facebook needed to be disrupted, but unfortunately the main way Facebook needed (and needs) to be disrupted is in compartmentalising sharing better, and while Circles accomplishes some of that, Googles real name policy pisses all over it.

galfarragem 12y ago
As a user of Facebook and Linkedin I'm only moderately happy with the experience but I can't see myself changing soon. I would be happy to change to one social network that could "compartmentalize sharing better" (using your words) and be used for both social and work issues. If they could add some twitter functionality would be a plus. Is not efficient using different platforms all the time, would be easier to have one platform with different "modes". There is plenty of space to disrupt the market but the status quo here is very strong. The problem is not if somebody changes or not, the problem is that everybody needs to change in mass or the network will be useless.

sumedh 12y ago

Add Google Buzz, Orkut, Google Wave, Google Talk, Hangouts. Its like Google is trying everything and hoping something would stick.

galfarragem 12y ago
You don't see Apple making that. They focus on few things and make them great.
- Sanddancer 12y ago
  My apple developer account name has @mac.com in it. Apple does plenty of throwing things against the wall to see what sticks.
- matwood 12y ago
  Like Ping? Every company has failures. Apple is much more secretive about what it is trying whereas Google is more open. As such the public sees all the 'beta' Google products, many of which will be closed down. There are benefits to both approaches.

saraid216 12y ago

> I never understood what value Google was adding to social networks. For me, the value was "intelligent conversation". It basically replaced HN for me until they changed the UI to be photo-centric and carded. Ironically, it was when I added an HN circle that my signal-to-noise ratio dropped. > Facebook at the time didn't need to be disrupted also. Facebook has needed disruption since 2008.