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OS X is surprising to me. This is something that should be cross platform.

by baldfat 12y ago

kapeli 12y ago
I'm Dash's developer. Currently there is Zeal, that has access to all of Dash's docsets - http://zealdocs.org http://zealdocs.org. Native apps for iOS and Windows are also under development and recently an app for Android has been released (http://lovelydocs.io/ http://lovelydocs.io/). Note: these apps are made by other developers, I'm just providing the docsets.
- Iuz 12y ago
  Zeal AND lovelydocs will help me tremendously. Thanks for that, and I'll be waiting for dash on new platforms too.
- e12e 12y ago
  Zeal looks nice... but am I missing something or are there no urls available for just the docsets on the dash/zealdocs pages? I get that zealdocs can download dash docsets -- but quickly skimming the c++ source for editdocsets didn't reveal any obvious link to a http repo?
- craigching 12y ago
  > Native apps for iOS and Windows are also under development Oh, that's nice! I've had Dash for a couple of years now and love it, but it would be very nice to have it open on my iPad while I develop on my mac! Awesome!
- smortaz 12y ago
  looking fwd to the Windows version (& hopefully Visual Studio integration?)!
shock 12y ago
I agree. I'm mainly using Linux so I've started working on a Linux version (also targetting Windows). If you like it you can use Zeal[0], which is free -- works on Linux/Windows. There's a signup page for my app[1] if you want to get notified of the launch/beta. [0] http://zealdocs.org/ http://zealdocs.org/ [1] http://dash-port.launchrock.com/ http://dash-port.launchrock.com/
- baldfat 12y ago
  Can I request you use Qt? Thanks
  - shock 12y ago
    I was considering Qt but decided to use Kivy[0]. Why do you think I should use Qt? [0] - http://kivy.org http://kivy.org
    - vidarh 12y ago
      I've never heard of Kivy before, but judging purely from the gallery on that page, my first impression is that I see no screenshots of any native-looking desktop apps. Unless that's just an omission in the gallery, that would be a good reason to use Qt.
      - shock 12y ago
        It's true that Kivy's widgets are not native and Qt's are. Would that be a sufficient reason for you to not use the app?
        baldfat 12y ago
        Here is my reason for Qt. Qt won the Linux tool kit wars (My opinion) and it is used by so many projects that it keeps the ecosystem more standardized. Plus when I am at work on my one Windows box I like seeing Qt on there also.
        shock 12y ago
        Ok, I'll look into Qt licensing wrt commercial Python apps and will consider using Qt if there are no issues.
        jkozera 12y ago
        There's LGPL PySide (http://qt-project.org/wiki/PySide http://qt-project.org/wiki/PySide) which should be suitable for commercial projects under LGPL, but PySide is Qt4 only. There is also PyQt (http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/license http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/license) with Qt5 support, but its free license is GPL-only, so if you're not doing open source, it's not going to work, unless you buy their commercial license. BTW, Zeal's original author here - thanks for mentioning Zeal and good luck with your project! As some personal advice, I wouldn't try Kivy for such content-oriented desktop app. I've tried briefly using it once for doing a very simple application, but it seemed much harder to implement usual desktop-like widgets. Overall it looks like it's good for graphics-rich and custom-rendered applications. You'll also need some HTML rendering engine for docsets. While there are Kivy projects like https://github.com/kivy-garden/garden.cefpython https://github.com/kivy-garden/garden.cefpython or https://github.com/kivy/kivy-berkelium https://github.com/kivy/kivy-berkelium aiming to provide exactly that, they don't seem very mature. However, I don't claim to be Kivy expert at all, and maybe you'll have good experience with it.
odiroot 12y ago
Same here. I'd love to use it if it worked on Ubuntu.
- shock 12y ago
  Ubuntu is my main development platform. To be honest I've had some doubts about targeting Linux for my app because I don't know how many devs are using Linux as their OS for development, but I hope I'm not wasting my time.
gress 12y ago
Have happily paid for the desktop version, I'd love to pay again (seriously) for an iOS version!

OS X is surprising to me. This is something that should be cross platform.

by baldfat 12y ago

OS X is surprising to me. This is something that should be cross platform.

I'm Dash's developer. Currently there is Zeal, that has access to all of Dash's docsets - http://zealdocs.org http://zealdocs.org. Native apps for iOS and Windows are also under development and recently an app for Android has been released (http://lovelydocs.io/ http://lovelydocs.io/). Note: these apps are made by other developers, I'm just providing the docsets.

Iuz 12y ago
Zeal AND lovelydocs will help me tremendously. Thanks for that, and I'll be waiting for dash on new platforms too.
e12e 12y ago
Zeal looks nice... but am I missing something or are there no urls available for just the docsets on the dash/zealdocs pages? I get that zealdocs can download dash docsets -- but quickly skimming the c++ source for editdocsets didn't reveal any obvious link to a http repo?
craigching 12y ago
> Native apps for iOS and Windows are also under development Oh, that's nice! I've had Dash for a couple of years now and love it, but it would be very nice to have it open on my iPad while I develop on my mac! Awesome!
smortaz 12y ago
looking fwd to the Windows version (& hopefully Visual Studio integration?)!

shock 12y ago

I agree. I'm mainly using Linux so I've started working on a Linux version (also targetting Windows). If you like it you can use Zeal[0], which is free -- works on Linux/Windows. There's a signup page for my app[1] if you want to get notified of the launch/beta. [0] http://zealdocs.org/ http://zealdocs.org/ [1] http://dash-port.launchrock.com/ http://dash-port.launchrock.com/

baldfat 12y ago
Can I request you use Qt? Thanks
- shock 12y ago
  I was considering Qt but decided to use Kivy[0]. Why do you think I should use Qt? [0] - http://kivy.org http://kivy.org
  - vidarh 12y ago
    I've never heard of Kivy before, but judging purely from the gallery on that page, my first impression is that I see no screenshots of any native-looking desktop apps. Unless that's just an omission in the gallery, that would be a good reason to use Qt.
    - shock 12y ago
      It's true that Kivy's widgets are not native and Qt's are. Would that be a sufficient reason for you to not use the app?
      - baldfat 12y ago
        Here is my reason for Qt. Qt won the Linux tool kit wars (My opinion) and it is used by so many projects that it keeps the ecosystem more standardized. Plus when I am at work on my one Windows box I like seeing Qt on there also.
        shock 12y ago
        Ok, I'll look into Qt licensing wrt commercial Python apps and will consider using Qt if there are no issues.
        jkozera 12y ago
        There's LGPL PySide (http://qt-project.org/wiki/PySide http://qt-project.org/wiki/PySide) which should be suitable for commercial projects under LGPL, but PySide is Qt4 only. There is also PyQt (http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/license http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/license) with Qt5 support, but its free license is GPL-only, so if you're not doing open source, it's not going to work, unless you buy their commercial license. BTW, Zeal's original author here - thanks for mentioning Zeal and good luck with your project! As some personal advice, I wouldn't try Kivy for such content-oriented desktop app. I've tried briefly using it once for doing a very simple application, but it seemed much harder to implement usual desktop-like widgets. Overall it looks like it's good for graphics-rich and custom-rendered applications. You'll also need some HTML rendering engine for docsets. While there are Kivy projects like https://github.com/kivy-garden/garden.cefpython https://github.com/kivy-garden/garden.cefpython or https://github.com/kivy/kivy-berkelium https://github.com/kivy/kivy-berkelium aiming to provide exactly that, they don't seem very mature. However, I don't claim to be Kivy expert at all, and maybe you'll have good experience with it.

odiroot 12y ago

Same here. I'd love to use it if it worked on Ubuntu.

shock 12y ago
Ubuntu is my main development platform. To be honest I've had some doubts about targeting Linux for my app because I don't know how many devs are using Linux as their OS for development, but I hope I'm not wasting my time.

gress 12y ago

Have happily paid for the desktop version, I'd love to pay again (seriously) for an iOS version!