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> MDMA is growing more and more popular as we speak, quickly replacing cocaine's position as the most popular party drug in my experience. It's also worth ment

by exDM69 12y ago

> MDMA is growing more and more popular as we speak, quickly replacing cocaine's position as the most popular party drug in my experience. It's also worth mentioning that MDMA is manufactured from Sassafras oil which comes from an endangered species of trees. There's a risk of the Sassafras trees becoming extinct because of MDMA manufacture in clandestine chemical plants in the jungles of south east Asia.

cfontes 12y ago
Thanks for the info. Very interresting.
logfromblammo 12y ago
I recently donned my foil hat and became convinced that safrole (the major component of sassafras oil) was banned as a food additive for being a carcinogen because of MDMA. The study determining carcinogenicity, which would ban the substance automatically due to a 1960 FDA rule, occurred in 1977. The substance itself was not found to be carcinogenic, but two metabolites--found in rodents but not humans--were. Shulgin began research on MDMA in 1976. Foil hat is the best psychoactive drug.
- rmrfrmrf 12y ago
  1976 --> 1 + 9 + 7 + 6 = 23 O__O
  - logfromblammo 12y ago
    "MDMA" = char[5] {77,68,77,65,0} 5 characters. 77+68+77+65+0 = 287 = 7*41. 7 and 41 are the 4th and 13th primes. 13-4 = 9. The 9th prime? 23.
cnp 12y ago
I'm trying to find a reference (it's out there, I promise) I learned recently that sassafras is no longer the primary precursor, and MDMA produced using it is actually somewhat rare these days.
Scoundreller 12y ago
The sassafras oil is also used to make a pile of perfume, cologne and aromatherapy products, as well as pesticides like piperonyl butoxide. Although some sassafras oil for clandestine production of chemicals may come from such unsustainable farming, most probably comes from diversion. Anyways, if sustainability of the source tree is the biggest issue, I'm sure most consumers would have no issues with a $1/dose sassafras tree sustainability fund contribution.
betterunix 12y ago
In other words, legalizing MDMA and regulating the production process could help to save an endangered species. (What, we can't turn the propaganda around?)
pmoriarty 12y ago
Shulgin on Sassafrass and Safrole: http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/safrole.htm http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/safrole.h...

by exDM69 12y ago

cfontes 12y ago

Thanks for the info. Very interresting.

logfromblammo 12y ago

I recently donned my foil hat and became convinced that safrole (the major component of sassafras oil) was banned as a food additive for being a carcinogen because of MDMA. The study determining carcinogenicity, which would ban the substance automatically due to a 1960 FDA rule, occurred in 1977. The substance itself was not found to be carcinogenic, but two metabolites--found in rodents but not humans--were. Shulgin began research on MDMA in 1976. Foil hat is the best psychoactive drug.

rmrfrmrf 12y ago
1976 --> 1 + 9 + 7 + 6 = 23 O__O
- logfromblammo 12y ago
  "MDMA" = char[5] {77,68,77,65,0} 5 characters. 77+68+77+65+0 = 287 = 7*41. 7 and 41 are the 4th and 13th primes. 13-4 = 9. The 9th prime? 23.

cnp 12y ago

I'm trying to find a reference (it's out there, I promise) I learned recently that sassafras is no longer the primary precursor, and MDMA produced using it is actually somewhat rare these days.

Scoundreller 12y ago

The sassafras oil is also used to make a pile of perfume, cologne and aromatherapy products, as well as pesticides like piperonyl butoxide. Although some sassafras oil for clandestine production of chemicals may come from such unsustainable farming, most probably comes from diversion. Anyways, if sustainability of the source tree is the biggest issue, I'm sure most consumers would have no issues with a $1/dose sassafras tree sustainability fund contribution.

betterunix 12y ago

In other words, legalizing MDMA and regulating the production process could help to save an endangered species. (What, we can't turn the propaganda around?)

pmoriarty 12y ago

Shulgin on Sassafrass and Safrole: http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/safrole.htm http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/safrole.h...