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If it works smoothly, this will be awesome. I can literally travel the globe and work from any internet cafe. However, I suspect there will be a lot of grow

by cglee 19y ago

If it works smoothly, this will be awesome. I can literally travel the globe and work from any internet cafe. However, I suspect there will be a lot of growing pains and bugs along the way. But it's a great idea and I'm looking forward to their release.

jamesbritt 19y ago
> I can literally travel the globe and work from any internet cafe. I can do that now. My laptop has my development environment. No latency, no fears of dropped connections while editing. Local commits using mercurial, and my customized gvim rig. And running "cap deploy" is pretty easy. This seems aimed at people are are not quite ready to call themselves developers. But at some point, if you want to build Web apps, you are going to have to learn to install software and set up a database and really learn to use a code editor.
- cglee 19y ago
  Well, what I meant was I could be wandering the streets of Beijing and going to work would be as easy as hitting up the nearest web-bar/internet cafe. As far as I know, they don't have them nifty EVDO cards in Beijing...
  - Zak 19y ago
    Based on the fact that they were testing them in 2004[0], I suspect they do. [0]http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200410/13/eng20041013_160054.html http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200410/13/eng20041013_1600...
    - cglee 19y ago
      I couldn't get one when I was there in Jan...anyone else in Beijing know for sure?
- jimbokun 19y ago
  "But at some point, if you want to build Web apps, you are going to have to learn to install software and set up a database and really learn to use a code editor." Why? I mean, yes, you absolutely have to have those skills today. But for a lot of uses, this service, if it actually works would be more than adequate. And there is a "code editor" in the demos. Probably not a very good one, yet, but I bet it gets a lot better quickly. Saying "you can't do web development in a web browser" is like saying "you can't run office applications in a web browser" or "you can't edit photos in a web browser". Every day those "can't do in a web browser" items get whittled away a little more. Having said that, perhaps you're getting at "leaky abstractions"? There will always be something that you need to tweak, as a developer, that the development environment hasn't made accessible to you. That is certainly true, but I think that could become the exception more and more, and day to day development could happen in a web development environment. Developing in the exact same environment in which your app is running certainly raises interesting possibilities.

by cglee 19y ago

jamesbritt 19y ago

> I can literally travel the globe and work from any internet cafe. I can do that now. My laptop has my development environment. No latency, no fears of dropped connections while editing. Local commits using mercurial, and my customized gvim rig. And running "cap deploy" is pretty easy. This seems aimed at people are are not quite ready to call themselves developers. But at some point, if you want to build Web apps, you are going to have to learn to install software and set up a database and really learn to use a code editor.

cglee 19y ago
Well, what I meant was I could be wandering the streets of Beijing and going to work would be as easy as hitting up the nearest web-bar/internet cafe. As far as I know, they don't have them nifty EVDO cards in Beijing...
- Zak 19y ago
  Based on the fact that they were testing them in 2004[0], I suspect they do. [0]http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200410/13/eng20041013_160054.html http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200410/13/eng20041013_1600...
  - cglee 19y ago
    I couldn't get one when I was there in Jan...anyone else in Beijing know for sure?
jimbokun 19y ago
"But at some point, if you want to build Web apps, you are going to have to learn to install software and set up a database and really learn to use a code editor." Why? I mean, yes, you absolutely have to have those skills today. But for a lot of uses, this service, if it actually works would be more than adequate. And there is a "code editor" in the demos. Probably not a very good one, yet, but I bet it gets a lot better quickly. Saying "you can't do web development in a web browser" is like saying "you can't run office applications in a web browser" or "you can't edit photos in a web browser". Every day those "can't do in a web browser" items get whittled away a little more. Having said that, perhaps you're getting at "leaky abstractions"? There will always be something that you need to tweak, as a developer, that the development environment hasn't made accessible to you. That is certainly true, but I think that could become the exception more and more, and day to day development could happen in a web development environment. Developing in the exact same environment in which your app is running certainly raises interesting possibilities.