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In an attempt to balance the discussion, I'm on 10.9.3 and I've had absolutely zero issues so far.

by bkurtz13 12y ago

tachion 12y ago
Same here, on iMac and MBA, both 10.9.3 as soon as it was out.
RexRollman 12y ago
It's been rock solid on my four week old Macbook Air.
rickyc091 12y ago
MBPR 2014. Had a few issues (crashing, slow wake/boot, etc.) with 10.9 + 10.9.1, but most of these problems were resolved by 10.9.2. Haven't had a crash with 10.9.3 as of yet. What I also realized was constantly upgrading from one version to another kept around some legacy files that messed up my OS a bit. A clean install might do the trick for those having issues.
- DominikR 12y ago
  That's the kind of advice that I constantly see in the Apple community boards for all kinds of issues. Why is such a solution even acceptable? I had no issues before 10.9.3, but if I have to go through a clean install just to fix the issues, there's no way that Apple is going to keep me as their customer.
  - ShaneOG 12y ago
    To be fair, "reinstall Windows" is oft-quoted as the best solution to a lot of Windows problems too.
    - DominikR 12y ago
      That's true, but I paid ~3000 Euros for my Macbook (thats 4000 Dollars) and that's exactly why this isn't acceptable to me.
      - stephen_g 12y ago
        That argument makes no sense. It's a fundamental fact that technology isn't perfect and sometimes you need to fix things - regardless of the cost of the device... And you would rather that your $4000 machine kept crashing rather then spending 30 minutes doing something that could fix it?
        DominikR 12y ago
        The problem is that this involves more than 30 minutes of my time. Setting up my development environment after the clean install will take half a day and I'm sure that I will forget to configure something in the process which will cost me even more time when I need the tool working. I switched from Lenovo (which just worked without any problems) to Mac because I thought it's the same quality (it'll just work) with the bonus of allowing me to develop for iOS. As it turns out, superficial things like the look and feel is better on the Mac, but it's nowhere near in terms of stability. I used my Lenovo for 3 years in work and at home as my only machine, whereas the Mac is in use for 1 day per week and I've already had more crashes on the Mac than I ever had on my old Lenovo. I just don't have the time or the interest to babysit my laptop.
xdissent 12y ago
I've had no problems either. Early 2007 iMac, 2011 MBA, and 2012 mac mini all with 10.9.x (currently 10.9.3). I regularly switch out external displays on the iMac and MBA without issue. My coworker with an MBP (2012?) has had one kernel panic that I know about this week, however.
- bluthru 12y ago
  Yeah, my 2007 MBP is rock solid. It sounds like rMBP's with discreet graphics cards are having the most issues.
mryingster 12y ago
10.9.3 has been pretty rock solid for me on my Mac Pro, as has every OS I've had on it since Leopard (10.5), although I skipped right past 10.7 to 10.8.2. My Air has had some weird won't-wake-up issues from time to time since 10.9.3 came out. Maybe its a laptop thing? I honestly haven't seen a kernel panic in years though on any of my computers though. The last time I did it was because I had a slew of bad sectors on my HDD.
ROFISH 12y ago
No problems here with a 2012 rMBP 13". It appears the kernel panics are due to the swapping between integrated and discrete graphics. Since the 13" only has integrated, I've been experiencing no problems.
sitharus 12y ago
Same, I run 10.9.3 on five machines - 6 year old Mac Pro, a 2 year old 13" MacBook Pro, a 2 year old retina MacBook Pro and a 6 month old MacBook Air. I use AirPlay, external monitors and projectors all the time. No problems here. As we have to remind ourselves at work, hundreds of thousands of happy customers don't complain, but the hundred who do (quite rightly) are very loud.
MBCook 12y ago
That's my experience on my two Macs. In fact, to the contrary, it seems to have finally fixed my issue where Mail would randomly stop fetching new messages from Gmail until restarted. At least I haven't seen the symptoms of that in a while. It going to take me months/years to trust Mail again. Such a horrible bug for them to release with.
pinaceae 12y ago
2013 MBA - zero issues. And this is on a corporate machine with Meraki, Sophos and Symantec Encryption Desktop running on it...
peckrob 12y ago
Same here. I'm running 10.9.3 on a 2012 Retina MBP, a 2013 Macbook Air, a 2011 iMac, and a few others with no problems. In fact, it seems to have finally fixed the sleep wake failures I was occasionally having on the Macbook Air since Mavericks came out.
eddieroger 12y ago
I was just thinking I should write a daily blog for the three different Macs I interact with daily and the problems they don't have. I even do remote updates to a collocated Mac Mini that is just singing along. Having lived through the fear of the remote reboot on nearly every platform for a while now, I'd say that it's pretty telling that I can let Software Update go on my remote machine nearly carefree.
eeeeeeeeeeeee 12y ago
Ditto. Retina MBP and an older 11" Air and 10.9 has been solid. I never have to reboot either of them except to do some updates. I've had more issues with hardware reliability with Apple products than with software issues.

In an attempt to balance the discussion, I'm on 10.9.3 and I've had absolutely zero issues so far.

tachion 12y ago

Same here, on iMac and MBA, both 10.9.3 as soon as it was out.

RexRollman 12y ago

It's been rock solid on my four week old Macbook Air.

rickyc091 12y ago

MBPR 2014. Had a few issues (crashing, slow wake/boot, etc.) with 10.9 + 10.9.1, but most of these problems were resolved by 10.9.2. Haven't had a crash with 10.9.3 as of yet. What I also realized was constantly upgrading from one version to another kept around some legacy files that messed up my OS a bit. A clean install might do the trick for those having issues.

DominikR 12y ago
That's the kind of advice that I constantly see in the Apple community boards for all kinds of issues. Why is such a solution even acceptable? I had no issues before 10.9.3, but if I have to go through a clean install just to fix the issues, there's no way that Apple is going to keep me as their customer.
- ShaneOG 12y ago
  To be fair, "reinstall Windows" is oft-quoted as the best solution to a lot of Windows problems too.
  - DominikR 12y ago
    That's true, but I paid ~3000 Euros for my Macbook (thats 4000 Dollars) and that's exactly why this isn't acceptable to me.
    - stephen_g 12y ago
      That argument makes no sense. It's a fundamental fact that technology isn't perfect and sometimes you need to fix things - regardless of the cost of the device... And you would rather that your $4000 machine kept crashing rather then spending 30 minutes doing something that could fix it?
      - DominikR 12y ago
        The problem is that this involves more than 30 minutes of my time. Setting up my development environment after the clean install will take half a day and I'm sure that I will forget to configure something in the process which will cost me even more time when I need the tool working. I switched from Lenovo (which just worked without any problems) to Mac because I thought it's the same quality (it'll just work) with the bonus of allowing me to develop for iOS. As it turns out, superficial things like the look and feel is better on the Mac, but it's nowhere near in terms of stability. I used my Lenovo for 3 years in work and at home as my only machine, whereas the Mac is in use for 1 day per week and I've already had more crashes on the Mac than I ever had on my old Lenovo. I just don't have the time or the interest to babysit my laptop.

xdissent 12y ago

I've had no problems either. Early 2007 iMac, 2011 MBA, and 2012 mac mini all with 10.9.x (currently 10.9.3). I regularly switch out external displays on the iMac and MBA without issue. My coworker with an MBP (2012?) has had one kernel panic that I know about this week, however.

bluthru 12y ago
Yeah, my 2007 MBP is rock solid. It sounds like rMBP's with discreet graphics cards are having the most issues.

mryingster 12y ago

10.9.3 has been pretty rock solid for me on my Mac Pro, as has every OS I've had on it since Leopard (10.5), although I skipped right past 10.7 to 10.8.2. My Air has had some weird won't-wake-up issues from time to time since 10.9.3 came out. Maybe its a laptop thing? I honestly haven't seen a kernel panic in years though on any of my computers though. The last time I did it was because I had a slew of bad sectors on my HDD.

ROFISH 12y ago

No problems here with a 2012 rMBP 13". It appears the kernel panics are due to the swapping between integrated and discrete graphics. Since the 13" only has integrated, I've been experiencing no problems.

sitharus 12y ago

Same, I run 10.9.3 on five machines - 6 year old Mac Pro, a 2 year old 13" MacBook Pro, a 2 year old retina MacBook Pro and a 6 month old MacBook Air. I use AirPlay, external monitors and projectors all the time. No problems here. As we have to remind ourselves at work, hundreds of thousands of happy customers don't complain, but the hundred who do (quite rightly) are very loud.

MBCook 12y ago

That's my experience on my two Macs. In fact, to the contrary, it seems to have finally fixed my issue where Mail would randomly stop fetching new messages from Gmail until restarted. At least I haven't seen the symptoms of that in a while. It going to take me months/years to trust Mail again. Such a horrible bug for them to release with.

pinaceae 12y ago

2013 MBA - zero issues. And this is on a corporate machine with Meraki, Sophos and Symantec Encryption Desktop running on it...

peckrob 12y ago

Same here. I'm running 10.9.3 on a 2012 Retina MBP, a 2013 Macbook Air, a 2011 iMac, and a few others with no problems. In fact, it seems to have finally fixed the sleep wake failures I was occasionally having on the Macbook Air since Mavericks came out.

eddieroger 12y ago

I was just thinking I should write a daily blog for the three different Macs I interact with daily and the problems they don't have. I even do remote updates to a collocated Mac Mini that is just singing along. Having lived through the fear of the remote reboot on nearly every platform for a while now, I'd say that it's pretty telling that I can let Software Update go on my remote machine nearly carefree.

eeeeeeeeeeeee 12y ago

Ditto. Retina MBP and an older 11" Air and 10.9 has been solid. I never have to reboot either of them except to do some updates. I've had more issues with hardware reliability with Apple products than with software issues.