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Time fixes everything. We have a short term memory. But what I feel the problem here is that there is no government will to stop what is being done. Which means

Time fixes everything. We have a short term memory. But what I feel the problem here is that there is no government will to stop what is being done. Which means that such acts will keep repeating. They are being sold as securing national interests which is a bit vague term in itself.

webmaven 12y ago
Greater transparency may be part of the solution: open source hardware, verified open source software builds, etc. Intercepting hardware shipments in transit can be made less attractive.
DanielBMarkham 12y ago
This is a political-level problem, not an NSA-level one. They're spies. Of course they're going to want to spy on everything. What we're missing is adult supervision that knows enough that some barriers should not be crossed. Congress (the Senate especially) is responsible for this mess. They created it, and they're allowing it to continue.)
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- pagekicker 12y ago
  good point Daniel B.
mhurron 12y ago
> Time fixes everything. We have a short term memory. The memory of a goldfish seems more appropriate. Companies are considering Chinese companies in the place of parts from Cisco and Juniper. These same places would have thought that unthinkable before the current revelations because of the general knowledge that the Chinese government was doing these same things. Purchasers punish one company for doing something that they now reward a second company for doing, while yesterday they punished them for it. If the NSA laid low for a bit and one or more Chinese companies were caught doing the same thing, it would all swing back the other way.
- marcosdumay 12y ago
  That earlier general belif that china spies it was based on cirunstancial evidence. The current belif that the US spies is based on catching them on the act.

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Time fixes everything. We have a short term memory. But what I feel the problem here is that there is no government will to stop what is being done. Which means

by mythealias 12y ago

webmaven 12y ago
Greater transparency may be part of the solution: open source hardware, verified open source software builds, etc. Intercepting hardware shipments in transit can be made less attractive.
DanielBMarkham 12y ago
This is a political-level problem, not an NSA-level one. They're spies. Of course they're going to want to spy on everything. What we're missing is adult supervision that knows enough that some barriers should not be crossed. Congress (the Senate especially) is responsible for this mess. They created it, and they're allowing it to continue.)
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- pagekicker 12y ago
  good point Daniel B.
mhurron 12y ago
> Time fixes everything. We have a short term memory. The memory of a goldfish seems more appropriate. Companies are considering Chinese companies in the place of parts from Cisco and Juniper. These same places would have thought that unthinkable before the current revelations because of the general knowledge that the Chinese government was doing these same things. Purchasers punish one company for doing something that they now reward a second company for doing, while yesterday they punished them for it. If the NSA laid low for a bit and one or more Chinese companies were caught doing the same thing, it would all swing back the other way.
- marcosdumay 12y ago
  That earlier general belif that china spies it was based on cirunstancial evidence. The current belif that the US spies is based on catching them on the act.