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A lot of people point out other software. The whole point is the algorithm [1] which how Anki schedules your cards. It is based on Supermemo's [2], and improve

A lot of people point out other software. The whole point is the algorithm [1] which how Anki schedules your cards. It is based on Supermemo's [2], and improved a lot over the years, so I think it's the most optimal from all of the SRS software's out there. Also I think Anki has a very simple UI, not sure how people can find it complicated. You just add cards, and by review you press a button, that's all. Cards are just HTML, but you can edit them with the built in WYSIWYG editor. Anki is great for learning programming languages! See the Janki method [3] and another blog post [4] how to use it effectively. I found the last one especially helpful, and started learning Programming languages based on that. It works great. You can also learn linux commands, whatever. People also asked for sharing cards. It is very important to make your own cards progressively and learn from those, because you know what you need to emphasize for the info to stick. Just use small information on every card, use your own terms, and it will be much easier to learn, compared to some random deck you downloaded. [1]: http://ankisrs.net/docs/manual.html#what-spaced-repetition-algorithm-does-anki-use http://ankisrs.net/docs/manual.html#what-spaced-repetition-a... [2]: http://www.supermemo.com/english/ol/sm2.htm http://www.supermemo.com/english/ol/sm2.htm [3]: http://sivers.org/srs http://sivers.org/srs [4]: http://www.jackkinsella.ie/2011/12/05/janki-method.html http://www.jackkinsella.ie/2011/12/05/janki-method.html

tauon 12y ago
> most optimal from all of the SRS software's out there You should check out http://ankiapp.com http://ankiapp.com The SRS algorithm uses scoring prioritization instead of intervals and I've found it to be more optimal than Supermemo/Anki. I was an Anki desktop user for over 8 years, but I always became overwhelmed by the number of reviews due that would accumulate if I didn't stay active with the app almost every day (review hell). I've found the priority SRS model much easier when studying in small chunks (5-10 minutes at a time, 2-3 times a day).
- Walkman 12y ago
  I study 10-30 minutes a day once (have a lot of cards in a lot of topic) and I just don't miss a day no matter what. I use the Anki mobile app if I can't use the computer on a day. I'm very lazy, but even I find this method very easy to do. I just made it as a habit; wake up, do the Anki review quickly and that's all. Also I prefer a desktop app, because it's open all day, and whenever I encounter a new info, I immediately put it into Anki!
- egh 12y ago
  Why is this named AnkiApp? I won't use software that creates deliberate confusion by using the same name as another application with the same purpose.
  - y4mi 12y ago
    because its anki for iphone there is also an ankidroid apk for android i think he meant to say that using the desktop appliation isn't really good to stay on top of the cards, while using a phone makes it very manageable.
    - egh 12y ago
      Isn't ankimobile anki for iphone? I use ankidroid, which seems to be the official anki for android. Ankiapp is mentioned nowehere on the anki page.
    - pgcudahy 12y ago
      The link is not to Damien's AnkiMobile which is the legit Anki for the iphone (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ankimobile-flashcards/id373493387?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ankimobile-flashcards/id3734...) but to some other Anki I've never heard of.
    - alecdbrooks 12y ago
      Ankiapp appears to be something different. The web app Ankiapp links to below is not Anki's web app, and Ankiapp's site is copyright Admium Corp. instead of being attributed to Damien Elmes.
oliao 12y ago
For learning languages, I used to make my own flashcards and then search audio that contained the word. Then I discovered that there are apps with pre-filled cards that already have the audio such as MosaLingua (http://www.mosalingua.com/en http://www.mosalingua.com/en).
- quintinoliver 12y ago
  I'm using MosaLingua right now to learn French. The fact that it comes with sounds for each flash card is a really useful if you don't want to learn words with the wrong pronunciation
djulius 12y ago
Is see in this comment and its answers, "most optimal", "more optimal". An algorithm is optimal, not more, not most, just optimal. For the case going here, you will have difficulty to prove any optimality, since the process involves humans. Efficient would be a better term than optimality.
pohl 12y ago
I've been doing the GRE vocabulary decks in Brainscape on my iPhone and I like the algorithm. It seems to be a variant of the Leitner Algoritm with 5 buckets. I'm enjoying it.
read 12y ago
Question: are there disadvantages to spaced-repetition or memorizing in general? Could it be that by memorizing new things efficiently you forget older things, or that other abilities deteriorate?
- ralmeida 12y ago
  I've used it for 8 months, and did not observe any negative side effects in the nature of those you mention. One thing that I would consider somewhat of a disadvantage of an explicit repetition system is that you need to really take care of how you engineer the questions to match the way you would normally encounter the knowledge they refer to in real situations. For example, read the section on "Two-way connections" of this article, also linked somewhere else in this thread: http://rs.io/2014/04/05/anki-10000-cards-later.html http://rs.io/2014/04/05/anki-10000-cards-later.html
- littlefishchan 12y ago
  I have been using SuperMemo for more than eight years and have more than 70,000 flashcards on a variety of subjects and languages, and once I got the hang of proper flashcard creation I have been able to remember almost anything I want: http://www.supermemo.com/articles/20rules.htm http://www.supermemo.com/articles/20rules.htm Look at the above article for rules on how to make proper flashcards. SuperMemo, Anki, etc. are all good at helping you remember information, but if the flashcards are not correctly made, it's like putting water into an engine that requires gasoline. The thought that all explicit memorization is bad is a total myth; if you break any of the 20 above rules, flashcards will suffer (Trying to memorize before you understand, not learning things in list form, etc.).
hngiszmo 12y ago
developer of http://fluxcards.de http://fluxcards.de (beta) and fluxcards android app (hobby) here. Anki's spaced repetition algorithm is quite good and I definitely plan to boast on using a better one just like brainscape.com does but in the end, more important than which algorithm to use is to use spaced repetition at all. It just allows you to learn 20 times more with 20 minutes of time per day than I ever could back at school and far too few people know about that. If you never tried, please do it for a week or better longer as the effect kicks in only after at least some days of training the system. In the end the actual spaced repetition algorithm used is not all that important, as long as easy stuff vanishes while hard stuff stays around.
- erikb 12y ago
  I'm very interested in all learning software. It's hard to see what your software does different than the others though. Do you have screenshots, videos or something like this?
lispylol 12y ago
This is also a great article about HOW spaced repetition systems should be used in language acquisition: http://www.hackingchinese.com/if-you-think-spaced-repetition-software-is-a-panacea-you-are-wrong/ http://www.hackingchinese.com/if-you-think-spaced-repetition...

tauon 12y ago

> most optimal from all of the SRS software's out there You should check out http://ankiapp.com http://ankiapp.com The SRS algorithm uses scoring prioritization instead of intervals and I've found it to be more optimal than Supermemo/Anki. I was an Anki desktop user for over 8 years, but I always became overwhelmed by the number of reviews due that would accumulate if I didn't stay active with the app almost every day (review hell). I've found the priority SRS model much easier when studying in small chunks (5-10 minutes at a time, 2-3 times a day).

Walkman 12y ago
I study 10-30 minutes a day once (have a lot of cards in a lot of topic) and I just don't miss a day no matter what. I use the Anki mobile app if I can't use the computer on a day. I'm very lazy, but even I find this method very easy to do. I just made it as a habit; wake up, do the Anki review quickly and that's all. Also I prefer a desktop app, because it's open all day, and whenever I encounter a new info, I immediately put it into Anki!
egh 12y ago
Why is this named AnkiApp? I won't use software that creates deliberate confusion by using the same name as another application with the same purpose.
- y4mi 12y ago
  because its anki for iphone there is also an ankidroid apk for android i think he meant to say that using the desktop appliation isn't really good to stay on top of the cards, while using a phone makes it very manageable.
  - egh 12y ago
    Isn't ankimobile anki for iphone? I use ankidroid, which seems to be the official anki for android. Ankiapp is mentioned nowehere on the anki page.
  - pgcudahy 12y ago
    The link is not to Damien's AnkiMobile which is the legit Anki for the iphone (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ankimobile-flashcards/id373493387?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ankimobile-flashcards/id3734...) but to some other Anki I've never heard of.
  - alecdbrooks 12y ago
    Ankiapp appears to be something different. The web app Ankiapp links to below is not Anki's web app, and Ankiapp's site is copyright Admium Corp. instead of being attributed to Damien Elmes.

oliao 12y ago

For learning languages, I used to make my own flashcards and then search audio that contained the word. Then I discovered that there are apps with pre-filled cards that already have the audio such as MosaLingua (http://www.mosalingua.com/en http://www.mosalingua.com/en).

quintinoliver 12y ago
I'm using MosaLingua right now to learn French. The fact that it comes with sounds for each flash card is a really useful if you don't want to learn words with the wrong pronunciation

djulius 12y ago

Is see in this comment and its answers, "most optimal", "more optimal". An algorithm is optimal, not more, not most, just optimal. For the case going here, you will have difficulty to prove any optimality, since the process involves humans. Efficient would be a better term than optimality.

pohl 12y ago

I've been doing the GRE vocabulary decks in Brainscape on my iPhone and I like the algorithm. It seems to be a variant of the Leitner Algoritm with 5 buckets. I'm enjoying it.

read 12y ago

Question: are there disadvantages to spaced-repetition or memorizing in general? Could it be that by memorizing new things efficiently you forget older things, or that other abilities deteriorate?

ralmeida 12y ago
I've used it for 8 months, and did not observe any negative side effects in the nature of those you mention. One thing that I would consider somewhat of a disadvantage of an explicit repetition system is that you need to really take care of how you engineer the questions to match the way you would normally encounter the knowledge they refer to in real situations. For example, read the section on "Two-way connections" of this article, also linked somewhere else in this thread: http://rs.io/2014/04/05/anki-10000-cards-later.html http://rs.io/2014/04/05/anki-10000-cards-later.html
littlefishchan 12y ago
I have been using SuperMemo for more than eight years and have more than 70,000 flashcards on a variety of subjects and languages, and once I got the hang of proper flashcard creation I have been able to remember almost anything I want: http://www.supermemo.com/articles/20rules.htm http://www.supermemo.com/articles/20rules.htm Look at the above article for rules on how to make proper flashcards. SuperMemo, Anki, etc. are all good at helping you remember information, but if the flashcards are not correctly made, it's like putting water into an engine that requires gasoline. The thought that all explicit memorization is bad is a total myth; if you break any of the 20 above rules, flashcards will suffer (Trying to memorize before you understand, not learning things in list form, etc.).

hngiszmo 12y ago

developer of http://fluxcards.de http://fluxcards.de (beta) and fluxcards android app (hobby) here. Anki's spaced repetition algorithm is quite good and I definitely plan to boast on using a better one just like brainscape.com does but in the end, more important than which algorithm to use is to use spaced repetition at all. It just allows you to learn 20 times more with 20 minutes of time per day than I ever could back at school and far too few people know about that. If you never tried, please do it for a week or better longer as the effect kicks in only after at least some days of training the system. In the end the actual spaced repetition algorithm used is not all that important, as long as easy stuff vanishes while hard stuff stays around.

erikb 12y ago
I'm very interested in all learning software. It's hard to see what your software does different than the others though. Do you have screenshots, videos or something like this?

lispylol 12y ago

This is also a great article about HOW spaced repetition systems should be used in language acquisition: http://www.hackingchinese.com/if-you-think-spaced-repetition-software-is-a-panacea-you-are-wrong/ http://www.hackingchinese.com/if-you-think-spaced-repetition...