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Hi all, thanks for checking it out and we're looking forward to your feedback! This next version of DuckDuckGo is in public beta. Here's the post about it I jus

• diggan 12y ago
  I just tried it out. Wanted to find "phpng" that was released just now. Search returns results for "phong" and no way to force it to use the term phpng. Otherwise, it looks good and works as well as the other "older" one. Good job.
  • yegg 12y ago
    Ahh, yes that is actually a fix we're presently working on and should make it in soon!
  • ToastyMallows 12y ago
    You can put quotes around phpng to force DDG to search that word. Though this should only be a temporary fix until the real problem is fixed.
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  • wink 12y ago
    I don't know what you mean by 'released'. If we're talking about the same thing, it's a) a single mailing list thread and b) a wiki page, which google finds. But as another check just revealed, DDG does not seem to index php.net very much, cf. https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=string+inurl%3Aphp.net https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=string+inurl%3Aphp.net It also does not find any php related content for my real name, whereas google does, a lot. Edit: my bad, it seems to be site: and not inurl:
  • nacs 12y ago
    If you use quotes around the search term, it does find 2 results: https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=%22phpng%22 https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=%22phpng%22
• geekam 12y ago
  I'd like a little better code and programming related search. For anything related to code-search I have to switch to Google at this point.
  • yegg 12y ago
    Would love some specific examples we can take a look at. We're working on many programming related instant answers, e.g. https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=nginx+vs+apache https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=nginx+vs+apache & https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=perl+split https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=perl+split
    • stormbrew 12y ago
      In my experience, the problem with code searches is the extra work you have to go to to force a precise search. The above example of phpng, for example. I'm totally fine with being told I might find more results with a slightly different search, but it's infuriating to not at least be given the benefit of the doubt that I know what I actually want. Unlike the GP, this bothers me about google as well, though.
  • ep103 12y ago
    https://search.nerdydata.com/ https://search.nerdydata.com/ I forget the name of the other one, but there's another one similar to this too.
    • Svenstaro 12y ago
      http://www.symbolhound.com/ http://www.symbolhound.com/
• vgnanand 12y ago
  The image and video search is slick. great job.
  • iconjack 12y ago
    How are you searching for images? I used !images but it just sent me to Google Images.
    • jaryd 12y ago
      https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=monkey+images https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=monkey+images
• 3rd3 12y ago
  It looks absolutely beautiful! That really puts the interface of the Google search in a tight spot. Only one remark: While I like the effect that the full URL shows up when the mouse is above a search entry I would personally prefer to see the full URL all the time. I would be very happy if you could add an option to change that.
  • pestaa 12y ago
    You can often extract lots of extra information from the URL, most importantly the date of publishing (y/m/d).
  • RogerL 12y ago
    Agreed. For example, search for 'anaconda python'. In google, the second result is very obviously the download page for anaconda. In DDG? Good luck discovering that. Just one example that popped immediately to mind.
    • varkson 12y ago
      That's more the fault of the site itself for not using title tags properly, but, yeah I do agree that a full URL option would be ideal.
  • Schlaefer 12y ago
    Google does one thing right that makes me quit DDG: put the URL next/below the title. What and where together. 90+% I don't need the Why and parsing over it to find the URL is distracting.
• ohblahitsme 12y ago
  How do you guys feel about telling us a bit about your algorithms and data structures? I'm always fascinated by that kind of stuff.
• senorerik 12y ago
  It's looking great! My only gripe is the lack of contrast in the results. I find it a bit harder to parse than before. The image and video showcase is well thought out. It is digestible and smooth complement to the general search, well done!
• terminado 12y ago
  For the love of christ, whatever you do, please don't ever implement "DuckDuckGo Instant®". This auto-complete predictive suggestion list business isn't half bad, but there's nothing I hate more about Google than their bloody "Instant" features.
  • coherentpony 12y ago
    Nothing wrong with implementing it and giving users an option to turn it on or off. Immediate disregard seems a little harsh.
    • Pacabel 12y ago
      Are you currently seeing that option somewhere? I looked in the settings, but I did not see it there, and I do not see any other way to disable that functionality.
      • coherentpony 12y ago
        Currently, no. My suggestion was to implement such an option.
  • cainetighe 12y ago
    We were on the fence about autocomplete for a variety of reasons, but tried to be careful about minimizing distraction. It was too great a vector to introduce !bang autocomplete :). As always, please let us know what you think as it evolves!
  • jfoster 12y ago
    Can you explain what you don't like about it? I was just thinking the (almost) opposite, that a full page reload after searching seems unnecessary.
    • terminado 12y ago
      Google Instant is irritating because I'm trying to type a search string into a field in the middle of the page, and as soon as I enter a single keystroke, my entire thought process is interrupted when the field I'm focusing on is thrown upwards to the top of the page, without waiting for me to confirm that I'm finished typing. So I want to search for "apple" and guess what: I type the letter "a"... Now the whole page is disrupted, and I have to stop, and check the page, to make sure the sudden change is what I expected it to be. Is the page doing what I intended? I only typed one letter... Did I actually type the letter "a", or did my finger slip and type the letter "s"? Wait, where's the field? Oh, it's up at the top of the page now... What was I doing? Oh, right, I was going to search for "apple"... Why did the page change, when I wanted it to stay put, while I complete my thought? Why didn't the page wait until I pressed the enter key, to confirm that I was finished, and ready to search for the intended query? Do I care about whether the page sends an ordinary post with a form submission, and reloads the page? No. Do I care about whether the page sends an AJAX request, and is re-rendered by a JavaScript library? No. I want the page to remain static and reliable while I perform my task. After I'm done typing, it can go crazy, and do whatever.
• JetSpiegel 12y ago
  Having Image search is the best feature of all. Can we get a search page exclusively for images? I mean having that images popup occupy the entire page. As for the rest, as long as the dark/terminal themes still work (there are small bugs), that's fine by me.
  • pestaa 12y ago
    Clicking the grid icon in the top right corner gives you more results, but a dedicated image-only search result page would indeed be very appreciated.
• jtfairbank 12y ago
  Bug Report 1. I search for "ng angular", which takes me to https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=ng%20angular 2. I've been to the top link before (http://angular-ui.github.io/ng-grid/). 3. I hover over the 'Visited Site' checkbox icon, and the hover text is obscured by the search area (specifically around the Image and Video tabs). On a related note, I find the interaction with checkboxes a little bit confusing. They disappear on hover when the text shows up (seems unnecessary, I'm left wondering why my icon disappeared). You can also hover over them on unvisited links and get the same message. Personally I'd prefer to see them as static icons, only shown on visited sites. I can hover over existing ones to get a message "you've visited this site before", which is clearer than "your browser indicates...". They do send a very clear message and are a great addition to the UI. Overall great job. Looks super clean, I love the image and video dropdowns... keep making it easy for me to use DDG! Edit: also submitted through your feedback system. Just gotta grab those hacker news points while they're there for the picking right? ;)
  • jtfairbank 12y ago
    May want to make your Feedback process a bit more direct- like have a "next.duckduckgo.com beta" box similar to "Help" and "Forum".
• nickconfer 12y ago
  Hi Yegg. Very interesting update. Two suggestions for places.. 1) If I search "self storage columbia mo" I get place results but if I "search self storage 65203" I do not get place results. I noticed this does work for food using a more familiar zipcode like 90210.. but maybe still a little zip code work to be done. 2) What about when I search "thai" or "self storage" in general. DuckDuckGo is known for not tracking the user, but if I search something that with location information would most likely provide place results, shouldn't I be given some type of indicator that with just a zipcode or city name I could be given better results? That way you are educating new users while still providing them the results they need and the privacy DuckDuckGo is known for.
• axelfreeman 12y ago
  Bug Report: If i play a video in the webseite, stop it, go to the video grid and then replay it, i have an echo. Tested with Chrome on Ubuntu. I also sent this via the feedback button. :-)
• ronaldx 12y ago
  The auto-suggest feature feels like a step backwards in terms of privacy: - it indicates that there's a fairly thorough recording of searches going on, and acknowledges a reasonable possibility of keypress-by-keypress recording, and - it doesn't work as well as google's version which accounts for local variation, and which formed part of my decision to reject google in favour of ddg. Overall this feature creeps me out, in an "uncanny valley" kind of way. It makes me uncomfortable.
  • yegg 12y ago
    To be clear, we still don't collect or share personal information and auto-suggest does not impact that at all. I appreciate it may make you and others uncomfortable and we're sensitive to that, but it is not a change in terms of privacy. We simply do not associate queries with personal information (e.g. IP addresses) and in fact don't store any of it at all.
    • ronaldx 12y ago
      Understood. Can you clarify how you have the data to provide an auto-suggest?
      • andrewguenther 12y ago
        It looks like it is based on sets of bigrams and trigrams pulled from pages which they have indexed.
        • ronaldx 12y ago
          Quick example: "Is my password... cats6plus" does not appear to be pulled from any page(?)
      • pnathan 12y ago
        Not yegg, but if you store a database of queries, along with frequencies, you can do a prefix match on what's already in the search box and return that. I'm speculating that DDG does something that. It doesn't take any PII to do that unless the query itself includes PII. E.g., "websites operated by paul nathan" is pretty PII. :)
• snird 12y ago
  Hi yegg, I want to express one wish I would like to see Duck Duck G0 maybe considering: I use duck duck go for its privacy, but it seems like duck duck go assumes I want absolute anonymity which is not necessarily right. I just want my own controlled privacy, and I want a good search engine that know me a bit. and I wish to give some of my privacy for that. what do I mean? if there will be an option to tell duck duck go what "categories" I'm interested in, so that it will use this data to give me better results I would love to do that. say, I can mark 'technology' and 'science' under my subject of interest and 'celebrity' and 'sports' under my subjects of disinterest. Do you think something like that might be possible someday or it completely goes against your philosophy?
• dpcan 12y ago
  The Install in Chrome thing doesn't appear to work. Won't allow me to save even when the Keyword field is empty. Not sure if that's a Chrome thing or DDG thing. EDIT: Sorry, it looks like it installed the first time. I tried to do a search. It kept using Google. So I thought it didn't install. I tried again. The keyword had already been installed, so it didn't work. Turned out it was already installed and I had to manually set it as my search provider.
  • alexhektor 12y ago
    It does show however how hard chrome makes it to change search engines. Probably right at the line there between really hard and antitrust.
• frik 12y ago
  The snippet excerpt needs some points "...". E.g. searching for "two": one two three four ... one-hundred, two-hundred, three
• SrslyJosh 12y ago
  Things I like: 1) The checkbox for visited links. However, I think there should be an infobox (visible by default) explaining what it is the first few times you search. A link explaining how it works (for the privacy conscious) would also be good. Things I don't like: 1) Moving the favicon below the page snippet. I think it should actually be up top and larger, since it's useful for skimming results. 2) Lack of color/contrast. Feels like someone sucked the life out of the site. This is important, because (for example) when I'm skimming results it's helpful to have the page titles (blue) stand out from the snippet (black). 3) Left-aligned results. I find it easier to skim the results when they're centered, rather than left-aligned. This is something people who have been using Google won't notice, but after reading DDG's centered results for a year or so, going back feels jarring, like I'm going out of my way to read them there. The center of the screen seems to be where I look first for content. 4) Larger header. Vertical space is precious, especially when you consider how much is already consumed by an OS menu bar, browser chrome (titlebar, address bar, bookmark bar, tab bar, status bar) and (on Mac OS) the Dock at the bottom of the screen.