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Moves – Updated Privacy Policy

31 points by hughsk 12y ago

Xspirits 12y ago
> If we sell all or part of our business, make a sale or transfer of assets, are otherwise involved in a merger or business transfer, or in the event of bankruptcy, we may disclose and transfer your personally identifying information to one or more third parties as part of that transaction. This, is the real issue: as they've been acquired by Facebook, which now own all powers on users' data
akumen 12y ago
Exported my dada and deleted the account. I stopped using the app a long time ago. Didn't find much use for the data at the end of the day. If you didn't log your workout, did it actually happen?
hughsk 12y ago
Note: > We may share information, including personally identifying information, with our Affiliates (companies that are part of our corporate groups of companies, including but not limited to Facebook) to help provide, understand, and improve our Services.
matthewmacleod 12y ago
Quote from the announcement press release on 24 April: For those of you that use the Moves app – the Moves experience will continue to operate as a standalone app, and there are no plans to change that or commingle data with Facebook. In something of a contrast to the privacy policy term: We may share information, including personally identifying information, with our Affiliates (companies that are part of our corporate groups of companies, including but not limited to Facebook) to help provide, understand, and improve our Services. Yeah, I know it's pretty standard, but it still irks. At least they were pretty honest with their "so long, we're off to Facebook" post, in stark contrast to most acquihires' "we deeply care about the new plethora of opportunities we can envisage to broaden engagement with our diverse community of users" bollocks.
- joshstrange 12y ago
  I posted a comment on the acquisition about how I didn't trust FB not to "commingle" the data (can't find the comment now for the life of me) and got down-voted with one of the only comments being along the lines of "Where is your proof?". I don't need proof to know that FB would do something like this eventually. I am glad I got rid of Moves when I read about the acquisition. Thankfully my Pulse has all but replaced Moves for me and I can be fairly certain Withings won't be selling to FB anytime soon. EDIT: Odd, I found it via HN Search but it's not on the comments page: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7okticb5nnl5xm0/Screenshot%202014-05-05%2009.39.17.png https://www.dropbox.com/s/7okticb5nnl5xm0/Screenshot%202014-...
phaedrus441 12y ago
I like Moves (and all the quantified self stuff), but for me, I don't seem to get much out of the data. I just looked at Moves and had 161 days of data, but…so what? I've done nothing with it besides automatically check-in to places on Foursquare, which I also don't really need or care about ("Awesome, I'm mayor of Costco!"). I went ahead and deleted my account and the app on my phone—at least I'll see a little boost in battery life.
- rickyc091 12y ago
  Yep, my exact sentiments regarding the app.
- ThomPete 12y ago
  Think about it another way. Facebook biggest problem is their lacking ability to detect intent. You normally check in somewhere after the fact. Facebook doesn't need every user to be using moves they just need a fair portion and it will increase the value of their data as they can now start to map that up against other behaviors and apply it much more broadly. So that "unimportant" data is in fact very important as allow FB access your unintended behaviors (i.e. in contrast to checkin, like, post, comment) So I agree it's not useful as such, but if enough people still use it anyway then it will be very useful for FB.
AccountsBlow 12y ago
Thanks, this is why i uninstalled immediately following the selling their company soul. congrats on the pay day of course, but im still disappointed.
saniul 12y ago
Here's the diff between the previous revision and the current one: https://gist.github.com/saniul/10192ff2b03935bff93e/revisions https://gist.github.com/saniul/10192ff2b03935bff93e/revision...

31 points by hughsk 12y ago

> If we sell all or part of our business, make a sale or transfer of assets, are otherwise involved in a merger or business transfer, or in the event of bankruptcy, we may disclose and transfer your personally identifying information to one or more third parties as part of that transaction. This, is the real issue: as they've been acquired by Facebook, which now own all powers on users' data

akumen 12y ago

Exported my dada and deleted the account. I stopped using the app a long time ago. Didn't find much use for the data at the end of the day. If you didn't log your workout, did it actually happen?

hughsk 12y ago

Note: > We may share information, including personally identifying information, with our Affiliates (companies that are part of our corporate groups of companies, including but not limited to Facebook) to help provide, understand, and improve our Services.

matthewmacleod 12y ago

Quote from the announcement press release on 24 April: For those of you that use the Moves app – the Moves experience will continue to operate as a standalone app, and there are no plans to change that or commingle data with Facebook. In something of a contrast to the privacy policy term: We may share information, including personally identifying information, with our Affiliates (companies that are part of our corporate groups of companies, including but not limited to Facebook) to help provide, understand, and improve our Services. Yeah, I know it's pretty standard, but it still irks. At least they were pretty honest with their "so long, we're off to Facebook" post, in stark contrast to most acquihires' "we deeply care about the new plethora of opportunities we can envisage to broaden engagement with our diverse community of users" bollocks.

joshstrange 12y ago
I posted a comment on the acquisition about how I didn't trust FB not to "commingle" the data (can't find the comment now for the life of me) and got down-voted with one of the only comments being along the lines of "Where is your proof?". I don't need proof to know that FB would do something like this eventually. I am glad I got rid of Moves when I read about the acquisition. Thankfully my Pulse has all but replaced Moves for me and I can be fairly certain Withings won't be selling to FB anytime soon. EDIT: Odd, I found it via HN Search but it's not on the comments page: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7okticb5nnl5xm0/Screenshot%202014-05-05%2009.39.17.png https://www.dropbox.com/s/7okticb5nnl5xm0/Screenshot%202014-...

phaedrus441 12y ago

I like Moves (and all the quantified self stuff), but for me, I don't seem to get much out of the data. I just looked at Moves and had 161 days of data, but…so what? I've done nothing with it besides automatically check-in to places on Foursquare, which I also don't really need or care about ("Awesome, I'm mayor of Costco!"). I went ahead and deleted my account and the app on my phone—at least I'll see a little boost in battery life.

rickyc091 12y ago
Yep, my exact sentiments regarding the app.
ThomPete 12y ago
Think about it another way. Facebook biggest problem is their lacking ability to detect intent. You normally check in somewhere after the fact. Facebook doesn't need every user to be using moves they just need a fair portion and it will increase the value of their data as they can now start to map that up against other behaviors and apply it much more broadly. So that "unimportant" data is in fact very important as allow FB access your unintended behaviors (i.e. in contrast to checkin, like, post, comment) So I agree it's not useful as such, but if enough people still use it anyway then it will be very useful for FB.

AccountsBlow 12y ago

Thanks, this is why i uninstalled immediately following the selling their company soul. congrats on the pay day of course, but im still disappointed.

saniul 12y ago

Here's the diff between the previous revision and the current one: https://gist.github.com/saniul/10192ff2b03935bff93e/revisions https://gist.github.com/saniul/10192ff2b03935bff93e/revision...