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Appsdeck, EU-based PaaS, is now in open beta

fakenBisEsRult 13y ago
Does anyone know other EU-based PaaS providers? One that comes into my mind is CloudControl [1] [1] https://www.cloudcontrol.com/ https://www.cloudcontrol.com/
- vertex-four 13y ago
  How about EU IaaS? I'd love to see something that's not under US jurisdiction, but provides, say, an OpenStack service (and potentially value-adds).
  - yannski 13y ago
    Check https://www.runabove.com https://www.runabove.com
- joostdevries 13y ago
  Clever Cloud is a French PaaS provider. I have no experience with them.
  - joostdevries 13y ago
    Clients I speak to are interested in cloud solutions. But as soon as information security comes up anything related to America (ownership as well) is a no go. So I'd think that there's a pent up need for reputable EU PaaS providers.
rmoriz 13y ago
No imprint, no names, anonymized whois, no contact details except the mail address, blog hosted at tumblr, main site hosted at a bulk web hosting company called http://www.devclic.fr/ http://www.devclic.fr/
- aspidistra 13y ago
  Related Github profile lists location as "La Plage Digitale, Strasbourg". Googled that + Appsdeck, discovered La Plage Digitale is a coworking space. Found a couple of articles tagged Appsdeck, which led me to Yann Klis: https://twitter.com/yannski https://twitter.com/yannski It shouldn't be that hard. An imprint / contact details page is a minimum requirement for anyone offering a service such as this for money.
  - yannski 13y ago
    Imprint and terms of service is the minimum and we know that. Technically we don't charge for money ATM.
- yannski 13y ago
  Founder here. Team and proper contact will soon be there. I understand that even the service is in beta you'd like to know who runs the service. Will correct that.
- camus2 13y ago
  Funny how most US startups tend to be very public about who they are (you often see photos of the team on their websites),while EU startups tend to be very secretive about personal details (of course it might not be true when a company is huge like amazon or google) . At least that's my experience.
  - rmoriz 13y ago
    At least in Germany and Austria you are required by law to publish a lot of details about your corporation or yourself (e.g. when doing a one-man-business). It's called "Impressumspflicht" which translates to "duty to publish an imprint/legal information"
whirlyvonelsass 13y ago
Was in the private beta, have been using this one for the last 4 months on a customer project. Quite good, everything you would expect from Herok-eu.
jmathai 13y ago
Congrats on launching the beta. Some suggestions for the home page though. Nothing above the fold tells me what AppsDeck is. The title and content are talking about how you're no longer in beta. For someone who didn't know you existed until 5 minutes ago you lost the chance of telling me what AppsDeck does. Best of luck with the service and kudos for putting it out there.
- yannski 13y ago
  Thanks for the suggestion.
picsoung 13y ago
Congrats on launching ! :) #FrenchTech!
- yannski 13y ago
  Thanks buddy!
mtarnovan 13y ago
Honestly, I don't get the pricing. (this applies to Heroku too, but they use Amazon). A bare metal server like this[1] priced at 130 EU/month should easily host (let's be generous and not oversell the CPUs) at least 100 containers at 20 EU/month = 2000 EU/month. Even with all the convenience of a PaaS, this doesn't seem like a good deal. [1] http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px120 http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px120
- yannski 13y ago
  Founder here. 1. when we'll charge a credit card (which should happen in the coming weeks as we're incorporating the company), we'll be already cheaper than Heroku in a price/performance ratio 2. to be honest we're more pessimistic than you about the number of containers that we can host on a single server like the one you cited (at Appsdeck we use only SSD equipped servers with more cores than in the machine you cited) That said, our price could change a little bit depending on the real workload that our cluster can handle in real life.
  - mtarnovan 13y ago
    How many containers would you fit on a similar server? SSDs you say? ok, here: http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px120ssd http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px120ss... same config with SSDs instead, only +10 EUR/month...
  - e12e 13y ago
    As a happy (small time) Hetzner customer, I concur, I don't think it's quite so rosy as parent hints at. The most crucial part: look at the bandwidth. Peek at 1Gbps (probably more like 5-600 after overhead), guaranteed 200 Mbps. If you divide that by 100, that's just 2Mbps guaranteed bandwidth per container! Sure, you can oversell, but then you're in a different game.
nickstinemates 13y ago
Hey guys, cool project! I always love seeing new Docker-based project emerge. I'd love to talk more - get in touch: nick@docker.com
Aethelflaed 12y ago
Already use this service for several projects, works really well and the tech support is always available ;)

Does anyone know other EU-based PaaS providers? One that comes into my mind is CloudControl [1] [1] https://www.cloudcontrol.com/ https://www.cloudcontrol.com/

vertex-four 13y ago
How about EU IaaS? I'd love to see something that's not under US jurisdiction, but provides, say, an OpenStack service (and potentially value-adds).
- yannski 13y ago
  Check https://www.runabove.com https://www.runabove.com
joostdevries 13y ago
Clever Cloud is a French PaaS provider. I have no experience with them.
- joostdevries 13y ago
  Clients I speak to are interested in cloud solutions. But as soon as information security comes up anything related to America (ownership as well) is a no go. So I'd think that there's a pent up need for reputable EU PaaS providers.

rmoriz 13y ago

No imprint, no names, anonymized whois, no contact details except the mail address, blog hosted at tumblr, main site hosted at a bulk web hosting company called http://www.devclic.fr/ http://www.devclic.fr/

aspidistra 13y ago
Related Github profile lists location as "La Plage Digitale, Strasbourg". Googled that + Appsdeck, discovered La Plage Digitale is a coworking space. Found a couple of articles tagged Appsdeck, which led me to Yann Klis: https://twitter.com/yannski https://twitter.com/yannski It shouldn't be that hard. An imprint / contact details page is a minimum requirement for anyone offering a service such as this for money.
- yannski 13y ago
  Imprint and terms of service is the minimum and we know that. Technically we don't charge for money ATM.
yannski 13y ago
Founder here. Team and proper contact will soon be there. I understand that even the service is in beta you'd like to know who runs the service. Will correct that.
camus2 13y ago
Funny how most US startups tend to be very public about who they are (you often see photos of the team on their websites),while EU startups tend to be very secretive about personal details (of course it might not be true when a company is huge like amazon or google) . At least that's my experience.
- rmoriz 13y ago
  At least in Germany and Austria you are required by law to publish a lot of details about your corporation or yourself (e.g. when doing a one-man-business). It's called "Impressumspflicht" which translates to "duty to publish an imprint/legal information"

whirlyvonelsass 13y ago

Was in the private beta, have been using this one for the last 4 months on a customer project. Quite good, everything you would expect from Herok-eu.

jmathai 13y ago

Congrats on launching the beta. Some suggestions for the home page though. Nothing above the fold tells me what AppsDeck is. The title and content are talking about how you're no longer in beta. For someone who didn't know you existed until 5 minutes ago you lost the chance of telling me what AppsDeck does. Best of luck with the service and kudos for putting it out there.

yannski 13y ago
Thanks for the suggestion.

picsoung 13y ago

Congrats on launching ! :) #FrenchTech!

yannski 13y ago
Thanks buddy!

mtarnovan 13y ago

Honestly, I don't get the pricing. (this applies to Heroku too, but they use Amazon). A bare metal server like this[1] priced at 130 EU/month should easily host (let's be generous and not oversell the CPUs) at least 100 containers at 20 EU/month = 2000 EU/month. Even with all the convenience of a PaaS, this doesn't seem like a good deal. [1] http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px120 http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px120

yannski 13y ago
Founder here. 1. when we'll charge a credit card (which should happen in the coming weeks as we're incorporating the company), we'll be already cheaper than Heroku in a price/performance ratio 2. to be honest we're more pessimistic than you about the number of containers that we can host on a single server like the one you cited (at Appsdeck we use only SSD equipped servers with more cores than in the machine you cited) That said, our price could change a little bit depending on the real workload that our cluster can handle in real life.
- mtarnovan 13y ago
  How many containers would you fit on a similar server? SSDs you say? ok, here: http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px120ssd http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px120ss... same config with SSDs instead, only +10 EUR/month...
- e12e 13y ago
  As a happy (small time) Hetzner customer, I concur, I don't think it's quite so rosy as parent hints at. The most crucial part: look at the bandwidth. Peek at 1Gbps (probably more like 5-600 after overhead), guaranteed 200 Mbps. If you divide that by 100, that's just 2Mbps guaranteed bandwidth per container! Sure, you can oversell, but then you're in a different game.

nickstinemates 13y ago

Hey guys, cool project! I always love seeing new Docker-based project emerge. I'd love to talk more - get in touch: nick@docker.com

Aethelflaed 12y ago

Already use this service for several projects, works really well and the tech support is always available ;)