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I upvoted because being an NYC native (well, after 5 years here) it is always interesting to see what I think I may be missing out on by not being in SF. Hones

by aditya 17y ago

I upvoted because being an NYC native (well, after 5 years here) it is always interesting to see what I think I may be missing out on by not being in SF. Honestly, I think he's spot on with SF being cheaper, cleaner and better tech scene than NY. Where NY wins out is that it is actually refreshing that not everyone is consumed by startup culture here, yet there are still people (buglabs, drop.io) building interesting companies. Also, NYC feels more vibrant compared to SF but my experience is highly limited to an 8 month stint in SF '05 and I wasn't working at a startup. How about we cut the negativity and share other experiences of people that have relocated?

dca 17y ago
Along the same line, given that YC is based there, and you have to move there to participate in it, any story about someone's experience in moving there is definitely of interest to me. My guess is that's the primary reason its of interest to others as well. Zed writes reasonably well and captured aspects of the experience that I find intriguing, so I found the entry worthwhile. I hope he continues to write about his move, and personally don't mind at all if additional entries get posted here for discussion in the future.
tedunangst 17y ago
If you care about comparing SF and NYC, I wouldn't trust somebody's account of a weekend visit. I almost laughed out loud at some of it. "Awesome summer weather" and SF are fundamentally incompatible. And Zed apparently doesn't actually like Mexican food, he just likes burritos, as that's the only thing you can only find in SF. Now he is spot on regarding Muni. Actually, probably lucky he found a bus at all. Muni vs MTA alone probably makes it worth moving to NYC.
- Locke1689 17y ago
  "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." - Commonly attributed to Mark Twain, but he never said it. Who knows who did.
- SystemOut 17y ago
  I don't know why people don't like the summer weather in San Francisco. Sure, if you live on the ocean side or in Pacifica it can be foggy and cold but in other parts of the city like the Financial District, North Beach or the Mission it is really comfortable most of the summer (high 60s, 70s and sunny most days). If you like super hot weather then you just head down the South Bay or over to the East Bay and you can get plenty of 80s/90s throughout the summer.
  - timr 17y ago
    It's pretty cold here in early summer -- I was wearing a sweater and a winter coat a few evenings last month. I just spent seven years in Seattle (aka the Gloomiest Place on Earth), and even I think it's a bit ridiculous to be wearing a winter coat in July. I also routinely run into tourists over by Giants Park who underestimated the weather, and who are frantically searching for warmer clothes. That said, I like it here. But had I moved here from LA or anywhere with heat, I would have probably been sorely disappointed.
    - hughprime 17y ago
      I'm enjoying my first SF (well, Emeryville actually) summer after three years in Sacramento, where "summer" means "90 straight 100+ days". I think it's nice that even on the hottest day of the year I can still walk around outside for an hour without feeling like I'm going to die of heatstroke. Unless you're planning a day at the beach, I think "hot" is overrated (and I say that as a Sydney native).
      - ghshephard 17y ago
        Emeryville is a significantly different Micro Climate than San Francisco. There are even parts of the actual _city_ of San Francisco that have different weather patterns - and just go a little South down the peninsula, and it's like you are in a different State when it comes to the weather.
  - gnosis 17y ago
    I used to live in SF's Financial District, and have also lived in NYC, and I must say I much prefer SF weather. The weather is boring (no seasons), but at least it doesn't every get freezing or disgustingly hot like NYC. Plus, if you ever want warmer weather, just drive out of the city or take the BART to Berkeley and you're there. The weather is probably the thing I like most about SF, compared to NYC. Otherwise, SF is pretty boring, and I much prefer NYC (except for the likelihood that NYC will be a target of another major terrorist attack, at some point).

by aditya 17y ago

dca 17y ago

Along the same line, given that YC is based there, and you have to move there to participate in it, any story about someone's experience in moving there is definitely of interest to me. My guess is that's the primary reason its of interest to others as well. Zed writes reasonably well and captured aspects of the experience that I find intriguing, so I found the entry worthwhile. I hope he continues to write about his move, and personally don't mind at all if additional entries get posted here for discussion in the future.

tedunangst 17y ago

If you care about comparing SF and NYC, I wouldn't trust somebody's account of a weekend visit. I almost laughed out loud at some of it. "Awesome summer weather" and SF are fundamentally incompatible. And Zed apparently doesn't actually like Mexican food, he just likes burritos, as that's the only thing you can only find in SF. Now he is spot on regarding Muni. Actually, probably lucky he found a bus at all. Muni vs MTA alone probably makes it worth moving to NYC.

Locke1689 17y ago
"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." - Commonly attributed to Mark Twain, but he never said it. Who knows who did.
SystemOut 17y ago
I don't know why people don't like the summer weather in San Francisco. Sure, if you live on the ocean side or in Pacifica it can be foggy and cold but in other parts of the city like the Financial District, North Beach or the Mission it is really comfortable most of the summer (high 60s, 70s and sunny most days). If you like super hot weather then you just head down the South Bay or over to the East Bay and you can get plenty of 80s/90s throughout the summer.
- timr 17y ago
  It's pretty cold here in early summer -- I was wearing a sweater and a winter coat a few evenings last month. I just spent seven years in Seattle (aka the Gloomiest Place on Earth), and even I think it's a bit ridiculous to be wearing a winter coat in July. I also routinely run into tourists over by Giants Park who underestimated the weather, and who are frantically searching for warmer clothes. That said, I like it here. But had I moved here from LA or anywhere with heat, I would have probably been sorely disappointed.
  - hughprime 17y ago
    I'm enjoying my first SF (well, Emeryville actually) summer after three years in Sacramento, where "summer" means "90 straight 100+ days". I think it's nice that even on the hottest day of the year I can still walk around outside for an hour without feeling like I'm going to die of heatstroke. Unless you're planning a day at the beach, I think "hot" is overrated (and I say that as a Sydney native).
    - ghshephard 17y ago
      Emeryville is a significantly different Micro Climate than San Francisco. There are even parts of the actual _city_ of San Francisco that have different weather patterns - and just go a little South down the peninsula, and it's like you are in a different State when it comes to the weather.
- gnosis 17y ago
  I used to live in SF's Financial District, and have also lived in NYC, and I must say I much prefer SF weather. The weather is boring (no seasons), but at least it doesn't every get freezing or disgustingly hot like NYC. Plus, if you ever want warmer weather, just drive out of the city or take the BART to Berkeley and you're there. The weather is probably the thing I like most about SF, compared to NYC. Otherwise, SF is pretty boring, and I much prefer NYC (except for the likelihood that NYC will be a target of another major terrorist attack, at some point).