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Agreed. ML is the "Wolf Hunter", but in this case, he was hunting sheep. I am astonished by the press's reaction to this. I think a lot of it has to do with the
by leverage 12y ago
Agreed. ML is the "Wolf Hunter", but in this case, he was hunting sheep. I am astonished by the press's reaction to this. I think a lot of it has to do with the relatively small and obscure HFT industry - it is not well understood, and it is easier to believe it is rigged than to understand what it is.
To even call it "high frequency trading" is not fair - this implied large volumes throughout the day by continuously providing quotes on both sides of a given security. Their PnL comes from the bid/ask spread and rebates for providing liquidity. They are primarily market makers. This is 99.99% of the HFT industry.
Instead, ML and IEX are talking about "speed trading" or, as the press has coined it, "latency arbitrage" - they take advantage of their speed to reach exchanges (2 milliseconds vs. 20 milliseconds) to front-run orders and react quicker to new information. These types of trades only happen at points during the day when signals are met, and they do not provide liquidity but rather cross existing orders (often times before the exchange receives the cancel message from the participant) and TAKE OUT liquidity. I would say less than 1% of HFT firms engage in this type of unethical activity.
An example: Imagine it's 9:29am and the Dept of Labor Statistics is going to release the monthly unemployment numbers. There is a positive expectation, and so before market open there are a lot of buy SPY (S&P 500 ETF) orders queued. The report comes out at 9:30am as the markets open, and the numbers are bad. Now, a rational investor would immediately attempt to cancel his order for SPX as the market is going to move downward. Imagine at the same EXACT time, a speed trader see's this investors buy order on the book and decided to cross him and sell. Due to his speed advantage, the exchange receives his message to cross before the investors message to cancel. The investor loses out, SPX invariably moves down, and the speed trader then buys everything he just sold for an essentially risk-less profit.
A final point is this: for any buy-side market participant (anything from a mutual fund to a "Average joe"), transaction costs are much lower due to the much higher liquidity and tightened spreads that high frequency trading has brought to the markets. HFT is making the markets more efficient. Cliff Asness (Founder, AQR Capital Mgmt) wrote a piece in WSJ talking about this: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303978304579475102237652362 http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230397830...
- minimax 12y agoSPX is the index. SPY is the ETF. Also the idea that you can rest an order with an expectation that if the news is good you profit but at worst you lose nothing is ridiculous. That would be a free option. If you want that kind of optionality you have to pay for it. If you rest an order, especially before a big news event, you are taking a risk that you'll get hit and the market will move against you. That's how markets work and there isn't anything wrong with that.
- leverage 12y agoI think you missed my point: if people are reacting to info at the same time (e.g. clicking at the same time) the exchange should receive the message at the same time. Similarly, market data should be transmitted at the same speed, and exchanges should not offer co-location to give one participant faster data than another - This is how they front-run.
- minimax 12y agoI didn't miss your point and you don't have any idea what front running is. Front running is when your broker, your agent who has a legal responsibility to seek the best execution for your order, trades in front of your order. If someone who you have no relationship with manages to react to a news event faster than you do, that's not front running. If you took away exchange colocation, you'd just have a boom in property values around the exchange as automated traders would still try to get on the shortest network path to the exchange. Exchange colocation is actually a way to level that playing field. Everyone who is colocated has exactly the same network delay to the matching engine as everyone else who is colocated.
- rondon2 12y agoLewis is not saying that all investors should be given the exact same access to the exchanges. He is saying that some traders are extracting money from the market simply because they have a faster route to the exchange and they are buying/selling ahead of other investors. They are not buying/selling based on market fundamentals, speculation, research. Millions of Americans invest a large percentage of their retirement money in 401ks because they believe that the US Stock Market is a relatively good place to make long term investments. When we see examples of people skimming money off of the market it makes us lose faith in the market. That is why this practice should be banned.