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It seems like the fear is that allowing the developer to have direct communication with the client could result in people circumventing the 4% commission. But u

by dsrguru 12y ago

It seems like the fear is that allowing the developer to have direct communication with the client could result in people circumventing the 4% commission. But unless they come up with an excellent workaround, it might be hard for the site to catch on without allowing that communication.

alttab 12y ago
They are trying to create a two-sided marketplace on something that is traditionally a consulting gig. So many things can go sideways, and at a 4% take on $3,500 projects, as loosely defined as that is, there is no way this can scale.
- lugg 12y ago
  > No way Sure there is, limit to what time they spend working on getting projects ready, if they don't meet a certain standard, drop them and give quick 5 second tips to get them back in the queue. If they don't produce a reasonable spec in enough attempts just drop them as a user. Even the AP had a work around for scaling this further, run at a loss for some time while you identify patterns of failure, produce resources for the user to solve their own problems. For $140 I could easily spend 10-20 minutes looking at a rough spec and tell you if it is workable for 3500, I'd even be able to put in a few slash points on which features would likely need to be cut. For some perspective, $3500 @ $50/hour = 70 hours. In other words, 1-3 weeks of dev time.
  - kondro 12y ago
    LOL, $50/hour. The types of developers you want creating your prototypes are those that can justify charging $200+ per hour because they have past business/user experience to truly understand what you want to achieve from your project as opposed to what you've specified.
    - alttab 12y ago
      This.
    - hrjet 12y ago
      In developing countries, $50/hour is considered very lucrative. Thus the hourly rate is not a good indicator of developer quality.
      - kondro 12y ago
        I assure you, it very much is.
    - lugg 12y ago
      The number 50 was for illustrative purposes. Not sure why that's so funny. Ok 100/hour and 35 hours look at that. If you can get the projects done in a tenth the time suddenly you're getting a lot more than that figure. Also as another has pointed out, justifying 200/hour and beating the competition is very difficult in a world wide market. Those in sv may be able to push that high but I can assure you there is many many developers with the same skill set living in much cheaper economic climates where 50/hour is considered much higher than 200/hour is in sv.
  - atmosx 12y ago
    For a developer living in Greece a 3.5k salary could equal in 1 month's work or more (8 hours per day). So it largely depends on the location. Since the developer's location is becoming irrelevant I guess that's a reality for developers in general.

by dsrguru 12y ago

alttab 12y ago

They are trying to create a two-sided marketplace on something that is traditionally a consulting gig. So many things can go sideways, and at a 4% take on $3,500 projects, as loosely defined as that is, there is no way this can scale.

lugg 12y ago
> No way Sure there is, limit to what time they spend working on getting projects ready, if they don't meet a certain standard, drop them and give quick 5 second tips to get them back in the queue. If they don't produce a reasonable spec in enough attempts just drop them as a user. Even the AP had a work around for scaling this further, run at a loss for some time while you identify patterns of failure, produce resources for the user to solve their own problems. For $140 I could easily spend 10-20 minutes looking at a rough spec and tell you if it is workable for 3500, I'd even be able to put in a few slash points on which features would likely need to be cut. For some perspective, $3500 @ $50/hour = 70 hours. In other words, 1-3 weeks of dev time.
- kondro 12y ago
  LOL, $50/hour. The types of developers you want creating your prototypes are those that can justify charging $200+ per hour because they have past business/user experience to truly understand what you want to achieve from your project as opposed to what you've specified.
  - alttab 12y ago
    This.
  - hrjet 12y ago
    In developing countries, $50/hour is considered very lucrative. Thus the hourly rate is not a good indicator of developer quality.
    - kondro 12y ago
      I assure you, it very much is.
  - lugg 12y ago
    The number 50 was for illustrative purposes. Not sure why that's so funny. Ok 100/hour and 35 hours look at that. If you can get the projects done in a tenth the time suddenly you're getting a lot more than that figure. Also as another has pointed out, justifying 200/hour and beating the competition is very difficult in a world wide market. Those in sv may be able to push that high but I can assure you there is many many developers with the same skill set living in much cheaper economic climates where 50/hour is considered much higher than 200/hour is in sv.
- atmosx 12y ago
  For a developer living in Greece a 3.5k salary could equal in 1 month's work or more (8 hours per day). So it largely depends on the location. Since the developer's location is becoming irrelevant I guess that's a reality for developers in general.