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This is the age of Google. And in top of that all oop languages are basically based off eachothor. On top of that intellisense. I don't see what's so hard.

rtpg 12y ago
This only covers a small subset of languages. Dynamic languages like python or ruby have very malleable definitions of what a class is, and a lot of static verification you can be used to in C# or Java isn't there anymore. Pattern-matching heavy languages like ML have much simpler object heirarchies than what you might find in OO languages, and have different design patterns to compensate. Purely functional languages like Haskell require a completely different way of thinking about state (seeing how there is none on a purely language-semantic level). There are many languages worth looking at that are not OO, and the lessons learned from really trying to learn them and their design patterns can make your code better in your "native" tongue.
- _random_ 12y ago
  C# supports dynamic typing BTW: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd264736.aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd264736.aspx
chrisdew 12y ago
Try some non-oop languages (e.g. Haskell, Clojure, Prolog, etc.) They're not so easy to switch between.
- pjmlp 12y ago
  Only if you stick to the language grammar, instead of the mathematical concepts, eg Lambda calculus, Logic, ...
- espeed 12y ago
  However, once you grok a new language paradigm -- like functional programming or logic programming if you only knew OOP -- you get to see the world in a whole new way and then you realize the new way isn't harder, it's just different. It's experiences like these that reveal a bigger picture. It's experiences like these where you become more aware of how easy and limiting it is for our minds to get locked into certain ways of thinking. With each new lens you come face to face with the reality that the fewer mental models you have, the more each one colors what you see, think, and believe -- the thought patterns driving your decisions and ultimately setting your trajectory. It's experiences like these that transcend tech and reveal what Alan Kay means when he says "we see things not as they are, but as we are" and "a change in perspective is worth 80 IQ points".
- kazagistar 12y ago
  Between, say, Python and Haskell is a pretty solid difference. If you spread out your known languages well enough, however, most languages become very close.

rtpg 12y ago

This only covers a small subset of languages. Dynamic languages like python or ruby have very malleable definitions of what a class is, and a lot of static verification you can be used to in C# or Java isn't there anymore. Pattern-matching heavy languages like ML have much simpler object heirarchies than what you might find in OO languages, and have different design patterns to compensate. Purely functional languages like Haskell require a completely different way of thinking about state (seeing how there is none on a purely language-semantic level). There are many languages worth looking at that are not OO, and the lessons learned from really trying to learn them and their design patterns can make your code better in your "native" tongue.

_random_ 12y ago
C# supports dynamic typing BTW: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd264736.aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd264736.aspx

chrisdew 12y ago

Try some non-oop languages (e.g. Haskell, Clojure, Prolog, etc.) They're not so easy to switch between.

pjmlp 12y ago
Only if you stick to the language grammar, instead of the mathematical concepts, eg Lambda calculus, Logic, ...
espeed 12y ago
However, once you grok a new language paradigm -- like functional programming or logic programming if you only knew OOP -- you get to see the world in a whole new way and then you realize the new way isn't harder, it's just different. It's experiences like these that reveal a bigger picture. It's experiences like these where you become more aware of how easy and limiting it is for our minds to get locked into certain ways of thinking. With each new lens you come face to face with the reality that the fewer mental models you have, the more each one colors what you see, think, and believe -- the thought patterns driving your decisions and ultimately setting your trajectory. It's experiences like these that transcend tech and reveal what Alan Kay means when he says "we see things not as they are, but as we are" and "a change in perspective is worth 80 IQ points".
kazagistar 12y ago
Between, say, Python and Haskell is a pretty solid difference. If you spread out your known languages well enough, however, most languages become very close.