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I'm not familiar with the strobing/scrubbing terminology. I don't think my memories have decayed that badly. :-) I don't suppose you have a paper you'd mind li

by pnathan 13y ago

I'm not familiar with the strobing/scrubbing terminology. I don't think my memories have decayed that badly. :-) I don't suppose you have a paper you'd mind linking to about this?

seanmcdirmid 13y ago
It is terminology that the live coding and live programming communities (well, at least Alex McLean and myself) are just adopting, and related to analogous capabilities in tools for video editing (like FinalCut Pro, AfterEffects). The terminology is meant to help us describe older work and the newer experiences like those illustrated by Bret Victor. I use these terms a bit in my recent papers, but I don't go into much detail: http://research.microsoft.com/apps/pubs/default.aspx?id=211297 http://research.microsoft.com/apps/pubs/default.aspx?id=2112... http://research.microsoft.com/apps/pubs/default.aspx?id=189802 http://research.microsoft.com/apps/pubs/default.aspx?id=1898... For the first paper, here is an annotated video that perhaps shows it better: http://youtu.be/xmWJsTTOvkU http://youtu.be/xmWJsTTOvkU You would be correct in thinking they are hardly standard. Time travel is such a sexy term alternative that most people just use that, even if it isn't very descriptive.
- pnathan 13y ago
  Programming with Managed Time takes an fairly novel approach to the semantics of time. I can't say that I've ever really run into a system very much like that before (my MS was on distributed debugging and I did a fairly deep dive into the history and literature). Anyway, the strobe/scrub terminology I think is worth using, IMO. It describes it well. Time travel is pretty fun to say though. =) ah well, it inspires me to continue on with my research. :-)
  - seanmcdirmid 13y ago
    Nice that you like it. We will try to promote it more later with a web essay, many people on HN don't like reading academic papers. Good luck with your research, I'm also involved in some similar distributed systems work (I'm a PL researcher who works in a systems group).

by pnathan 13y ago

I'm not familiar with the strobing/scrubbing terminology. I don't think my memories have decayed that badly. :-) I don't suppose you have a paper you'd mind linking to about this?

seanmcdirmid 13y ago

It is terminology that the live coding and live programming communities (well, at least Alex McLean and myself) are just adopting, and related to analogous capabilities in tools for video editing (like FinalCut Pro, AfterEffects). The terminology is meant to help us describe older work and the newer experiences like those illustrated by Bret Victor. I use these terms a bit in my recent papers, but I don't go into much detail: http://research.microsoft.com/apps/pubs/default.aspx?id=211297 http://research.microsoft.com/apps/pubs/default.aspx?id=2112... http://research.microsoft.com/apps/pubs/default.aspx?id=189802 http://research.microsoft.com/apps/pubs/default.aspx?id=1898... For the first paper, here is an annotated video that perhaps shows it better: http://youtu.be/xmWJsTTOvkU http://youtu.be/xmWJsTTOvkU You would be correct in thinking they are hardly standard. Time travel is such a sexy term alternative that most people just use that, even if it isn't very descriptive.

pnathan 13y ago
Programming with Managed Time takes an fairly novel approach to the semantics of time. I can't say that I've ever really run into a system very much like that before (my MS was on distributed debugging and I did a fairly deep dive into the history and literature). Anyway, the strobe/scrub terminology I think is worth using, IMO. It describes it well. Time travel is pretty fun to say though. =) ah well, it inspires me to continue on with my research. :-)
- seanmcdirmid 13y ago
  Nice that you like it. We will try to promote it more later with a web essay, many people on HN don't like reading academic papers. Good luck with your research, I'm also involved in some similar distributed systems work (I'm a PL researcher who works in a systems group).