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Looks like it'll only work on US outlets, so it's unfit for most of the world.

Jtsummers 13y ago
> Global Dart: You live abroad and you want a Dart. This reward is for you. The Dart will work internationally, but you'll need a plug to match your outlet. This reward includes the Dart PLUS a plug adapter for your region. Your Dart, your color holds for this offer. Choose your favorite from among our signature Kickstarter colors. Please note the later estimated delivery date. Not MacBook compatible. Shipping is included. (Emphasis added) It seems this is in fact fit for most of the world.
- cliveowen 13y ago
  If you have to resort to an adapter you lose the main proposition (the small form factor), so the point remains.
  - smackfu 13y ago
    Making the power adapter longer also makes it more prone to fall out of the wall, especially with Euro style plugs.
  - joezydeco 13y ago
    A plug adapter doesn't have to be as large as a transformer. http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/theshorelinemarket_2310_643977735 http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/theshorelinemarket_2310_643977735 Inelegant? Sure. Large? No.
    - kijin 13y ago
      That only works in continental Europe, South Korea, and a handful of other countries that use the CEE7 (Europlug) standard. In the UK, the plug adapter is going to be twice as big as Dart: https://www.google.com/search?q=uk%20plug&tbm=isch https://www.google.com/search?q=uk%20plug&tbm=isch
      - chx 13y ago
        This adapter http://www.dx.com/p/mini-worldwide-power-plug-adapter-2238 http://www.dx.com/p/mini-worldwide-power-plug-adapter-2238 http://www.amazon.com/Kikkerland-UL03-A-Universal-Travel-Adapter/dp/B00210MRGC http://www.amazon.com/Kikkerland-UL03-A-Universal-Travel-Ada... will fold itself into a UK plug while still being flat and all that. Once upon a time even APC sold a version of this.
  - Jtsummers 13y ago
    First gen hardware product that's innovative and accomplishing something the hardware manufacturers haven't yet. A slightly uglier version isn't really a big deal when, if they're successful, they'll be able to start offering proper international versions. Remember, this is a hardware Kickstarter. The number of different and short production runs to support the variety [1] of sockets makes their proposal far more reasonable and cost-effective (for the first production run). This way, they make one device modulo the outside casing and the limited run Macbook compatible ones. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets#Types_in_present_use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets#Type...
- vacri 13y ago
  It depends on whether or not they mean "a plug adapter" as being 'swap out the existing plug with an interchangeable fascia' or an external adapter such as tourists use. The latter is not a solution.
  - Jtsummers 13y ago
    In the longterm, no, but in the short term to be an early adopter? Maybe, they've got 160 of backers for the global versions.
- luchs 13y ago
  This is what an US iPhone charger looks like with an EU adapter: http://imgur.com/fM8iP0n http://imgur.com/fM8iP0n I usually leave it at home. The adapter isn't large, but you have to take it off for transport which makes it awkward to use.
  - arrrg 13y ago
    If you have to use it frequently I would recommend just getting the European charger: http://store.apple.com/de/product/MD813ZM/A/apple-usb-power-adapter?fnode=48 http://store.apple.com/de/product/MD813ZM/A/apple-usb-power-... (Yeah, Apple doesn’t do prices below €20, but it’s a pretty nice and compact charger. It’s longer than the US charger, but very flat, which I think is a better form factor in many situations.) All of this is to say that these adaptors are super annoying, look ugly, add bulk and are easy to forget, so never an ideal solution.

> Global Dart: You live abroad and you want a Dart. This reward is for you. The Dart will work internationally, but you'll need a plug to match your outlet. This reward includes the Dart PLUS a plug adapter for your region. Your Dart, your color holds for this offer. Choose your favorite from among our signature Kickstarter colors. Please note the later estimated delivery date. Not MacBook compatible. Shipping is included. (Emphasis added) It seems this is in fact fit for most of the world.

cliveowen 13y ago
If you have to resort to an adapter you lose the main proposition (the small form factor), so the point remains.
- smackfu 13y ago
  Making the power adapter longer also makes it more prone to fall out of the wall, especially with Euro style plugs.
- joezydeco 13y ago
  A plug adapter doesn't have to be as large as a transformer. http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/theshorelinemarket_2310_643977735 http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/theshorelinemarket_2310_643977735 Inelegant? Sure. Large? No.
  - kijin 13y ago
    That only works in continental Europe, South Korea, and a handful of other countries that use the CEE7 (Europlug) standard. In the UK, the plug adapter is going to be twice as big as Dart: https://www.google.com/search?q=uk%20plug&tbm=isch https://www.google.com/search?q=uk%20plug&tbm=isch
    - chx 13y ago
      This adapter http://www.dx.com/p/mini-worldwide-power-plug-adapter-2238 http://www.dx.com/p/mini-worldwide-power-plug-adapter-2238 http://www.amazon.com/Kikkerland-UL03-A-Universal-Travel-Adapter/dp/B00210MRGC http://www.amazon.com/Kikkerland-UL03-A-Universal-Travel-Ada... will fold itself into a UK plug while still being flat and all that. Once upon a time even APC sold a version of this.
- Jtsummers 13y ago
  First gen hardware product that's innovative and accomplishing something the hardware manufacturers haven't yet. A slightly uglier version isn't really a big deal when, if they're successful, they'll be able to start offering proper international versions. Remember, this is a hardware Kickstarter. The number of different and short production runs to support the variety [1] of sockets makes their proposal far more reasonable and cost-effective (for the first production run). This way, they make one device modulo the outside casing and the limited run Macbook compatible ones. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets#Types_in_present_use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets#Type...
vacri 13y ago
It depends on whether or not they mean "a plug adapter" as being 'swap out the existing plug with an interchangeable fascia' or an external adapter such as tourists use. The latter is not a solution.
- Jtsummers 13y ago
  In the longterm, no, but in the short term to be an early adopter? Maybe, they've got 160 of backers for the global versions.
luchs 13y ago
This is what an US iPhone charger looks like with an EU adapter: http://imgur.com/fM8iP0n http://imgur.com/fM8iP0n I usually leave it at home. The adapter isn't large, but you have to take it off for transport which makes it awkward to use.
- arrrg 13y ago
  If you have to use it frequently I would recommend just getting the European charger: http://store.apple.com/de/product/MD813ZM/A/apple-usb-power-adapter?fnode=48 http://store.apple.com/de/product/MD813ZM/A/apple-usb-power-... (Yeah, Apple doesn’t do prices below €20, but it’s a pretty nice and compact charger. It’s longer than the US charger, but very flat, which I think is a better form factor in many situations.) All of this is to say that these adaptors are super annoying, look ugly, add bulk and are easy to forget, so never an ideal solution.