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After reading the judgement, seems like the right decision was made to overturn the conviction based on venue. But compensation? Come on. He would still be con

After reading the judgement, seems like the right decision was made to overturn the conviction based on venue. But compensation? Come on. He would still be convicted of some of the computer hacking charges in other states. Didn't his co-accused plead guilty to those charges? What happens to him?

Nursie 13y ago
Personally I think that everyone who ever has a conviction overturned should be compensated for all time lost and costs incurred. Not because the state would be dissuaded from pushing edge-cases but because we, the people, have robbed someone of part of their life. We should make it right.
- aroch 13y ago
  This wasn't just an overturned verdict, this was a vacation due to process which is different. Most states offer compensation packages to those wrongly incarcerated. Its usually a percentage of your expected income if you hadn't been put in jail
  - beambot 13y ago
    A percentage!? That doesn't even come close. Perhaps a multiple is more fitting.
    - jmathai 13y ago
      1000%
      - bronson 13y ago
        Looking to create a new profession?
    - aroch 13y ago
      A percentage is better than nothing, last time I was curious and looked it was 60-70% of your expected earning up to a max (120K/year IIRC) in my state. You can either take the `deal` so to speak or go to court for your compensation
  - late2part 13y ago
    This rhymes with vacate: "An error regarding venue exhibits many of the characteristics of structural error. If the District Court had found venue lacking upon Auernheimer’s motion to dismiss, there would have been no trial in New Jersey at all"
- sitkack 13y ago
  What about his mistreatment in jail? Just because you are a prisoner doesn't mean they should be able to treat you like shit.
  - jrochkind1 13y ago
    They shouldn't be able to, but they are able to, and it aint' just weev. Yes, we should do something about it, for all prisoners.
    - sitkack 13y ago
      Totally agree.
greenyoda 13y ago
"He would still be convicted of some of the computer hacking charges in other states." That's hardly a sure bet. The prosecutors would have to convince a completely different jury that a crime had been committed, and that different group of jurors could be far more skeptical.
fleitz 13y ago
Yeah, you should at least get your costs back.

Nursie 13y ago

Personally I think that everyone who ever has a conviction overturned should be compensated for all time lost and costs incurred. Not because the state would be dissuaded from pushing edge-cases but because we, the people, have robbed someone of part of their life. We should make it right.

aroch 13y ago
This wasn't just an overturned verdict, this was a vacation due to process which is different. Most states offer compensation packages to those wrongly incarcerated. Its usually a percentage of your expected income if you hadn't been put in jail
- beambot 13y ago
  A percentage!? That doesn't even come close. Perhaps a multiple is more fitting.
  - jmathai 13y ago
    1000%
    - bronson 13y ago
      Looking to create a new profession?
  - aroch 13y ago
    A percentage is better than nothing, last time I was curious and looked it was 60-70% of your expected earning up to a max (120K/year IIRC) in my state. You can either take the `deal` so to speak or go to court for your compensation
- late2part 13y ago
  This rhymes with vacate: "An error regarding venue exhibits many of the characteristics of structural error. If the District Court had found venue lacking upon Auernheimer’s motion to dismiss, there would have been no trial in New Jersey at all"
sitkack 13y ago
What about his mistreatment in jail? Just because you are a prisoner doesn't mean they should be able to treat you like shit.
- jrochkind1 13y ago
  They shouldn't be able to, but they are able to, and it aint' just weev. Yes, we should do something about it, for all prisoners.
  - sitkack 13y ago
    Totally agree.

greenyoda 13y ago

"He would still be convicted of some of the computer hacking charges in other states." That's hardly a sure bet. The prosecutors would have to convince a completely different jury that a crime had been committed, and that different group of jurors could be far more skeptical.

fleitz 13y ago

Yeah, you should at least get your costs back.