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Stackoverflow is already geared toward and full of css and HTML questions. What gap is this site trying to fill?

by naz 17y ago

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phsr 17y ago
My thoughts exactly, and it also looks like they may have some bugs to fix like here: http://doctype.com/why-floating-elements-being-pushed-around http://doctype.com/why-floating-elements-being-pushed-around Notice how the image covers the right hand nav??
- pbz 17y ago
  That's what you get for not using tables :)
  - adamhowell 17y ago
    No, that's what you get for not preparing yourself for all the different shapes and sizes of user created content.
    - pbz 17y ago
      You can't prepare yourself for all the sizes and shapes created by the user. The minute you give up control of content you will end up with crap that like. If he had used tables at least the layout would have adjusted accordingly. It would not have looked pretty, but it would've been usable.
rokhayakebe 17y ago
Well, for one you don't need Openid to register. Stack overflow scares a lot of potential users. It is more geared towards programmers as opposed to designers.
- whalesalad 17y ago
  Yeah.. openid still feels really funny to me even as a developer. I guess I should read up more on how it actually works (behind the scenes).
  - staunch 17y ago
    Screw it. I've implemented it many times and still don't prefer it myself. I like to be able to setup a new separate semi-anonymous account on each site I use.
    - whalesalad 17y ago
      Yep, I feel the same way. I'm much more a fan of something like clickpass where I can bootstrap my signup with details already filled in.
      - wvenable 17y ago
        I still haven't bothered to signup for Stackoverflow because of the OpenID requirement. If it has username/password it'd be done already.
        billpg 17y ago
        Great news, myopenid is part of stackoverflow. Register with myopenid and use that to get into stackoverflow. Okay, myopenid is really an independent entity, but just pretend they are part of the same company and it'll work out fine.
        sireat 17y ago
        I too am not a huge fan of current implementation of OpenID. However, if you have a throwaway account on Yahoo or Google, it is trivially easy to signup on Stackoverflow.
    - anshul 17y ago
      If that's what you like then can't you just create a separate semi-anonymous openid for every site you use?
mrshoe 17y ago
The cynic in me sees two differences: 1) Much smaller user base 2) The Litmus ad on the right side of every page EDIT: The rest of me sees healthy competition and an interesting take on freemium marketing for their money-making app. :)
- andreyf 17y ago
  Much smaller user base Since SO content is licensed under creative commons, there's no reason they can't feed in all questions into SO... I suppose it might be tricky to merge votes of the (much larger) SO audience with votes of their audience, and has interesting implications to SO's business, but it's certainly doable.
- webwright 17y ago
  "1) Much smaller user base" Also a much more focused user base. From an advertising point of view, do you think it's easier to sell 10,000 uniques on a general web technology site or 5,000 uniques on a site that has a very specific audience like web designers?
  - dangoldin 17y ago
    That's a pretty astute point. I can see them sharing the same database for both sites but displaying the CSS/HTML questions both on doctype and SO, but doctype restricted to CSS/HTML only. This will allow them to get content through multiple channels but allow them to sell more targeted ads on doctype.
  - brown9-2 17y ago
    I would argue that the SO userbase is already highly focused - on developers. Its not "general technology site", just "general developers" site. Its not as if that's an especially large and poorly defined group. With a much smaller subset of potential users I think you'll also find a much more "focused" group of advertisers, i.e. a smaller group of interested advertisers.
- forgotmypasswd 17y ago
  My question got answered in 4 minutes. I cant complain
rudd 17y ago
Not exactly a gap. It's just trying to be a domain-specific site. There're plenty of examples of this. For example, you could view HN as a domain-specific digg or reddit, for tech/startups. Even though you can make a subreddit or similar. Perhaps they felt there was a lot of bad quality for HTML/CSS question and answers on StackOverflow, so they built this. I don't think so, but it's possible that the creators do.
- triffid 17y ago
  I think there are a lot of poor HTML/CSS questions and answers on Stack Overflow, but I don't think separating them other programming questions and from non-front-end programmers is really going to help anyone.
phenwoods 17y ago
From the Stackoverflow blog http://blog.stackoverflow.com http://blog.stackoverflow.com, this is an official sister site of Stackoverflow. Will this mean that HTML/CSS questions will be migrated from Stackoverflow?

Stackoverflow is already geared toward and full of css and HTML questions. What gap is this site trying to fill?

by naz 17y ago

Stackoverflow is already geared toward and full of css and HTML questions. What gap is this site trying to fill?

deleted 17y ago

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phsr 17y ago

My thoughts exactly, and it also looks like they may have some bugs to fix like here: http://doctype.com/why-floating-elements-being-pushed-around http://doctype.com/why-floating-elements-being-pushed-around Notice how the image covers the right hand nav??

pbz 17y ago
That's what you get for not using tables :)
- adamhowell 17y ago
  No, that's what you get for not preparing yourself for all the different shapes and sizes of user created content.
  - pbz 17y ago
    You can't prepare yourself for all the sizes and shapes created by the user. The minute you give up control of content you will end up with crap that like. If he had used tables at least the layout would have adjusted accordingly. It would not have looked pretty, but it would've been usable.

rokhayakebe 17y ago

Well, for one you don't need Openid to register. Stack overflow scares a lot of potential users. It is more geared towards programmers as opposed to designers.

whalesalad 17y ago
Yeah.. openid still feels really funny to me even as a developer. I guess I should read up more on how it actually works (behind the scenes).
- staunch 17y ago
  Screw it. I've implemented it many times and still don't prefer it myself. I like to be able to setup a new separate semi-anonymous account on each site I use.
  - whalesalad 17y ago
    Yep, I feel the same way. I'm much more a fan of something like clickpass where I can bootstrap my signup with details already filled in.
    - wvenable 17y ago
      I still haven't bothered to signup for Stackoverflow because of the OpenID requirement. If it has username/password it'd be done already.
      - billpg 17y ago
        Great news, myopenid is part of stackoverflow. Register with myopenid and use that to get into stackoverflow. Okay, myopenid is really an independent entity, but just pretend they are part of the same company and it'll work out fine.
      - sireat 17y ago
        I too am not a huge fan of current implementation of OpenID. However, if you have a throwaway account on Yahoo or Google, it is trivially easy to signup on Stackoverflow.
  - anshul 17y ago
    If that's what you like then can't you just create a separate semi-anonymous openid for every site you use?

mrshoe 17y ago

The cynic in me sees two differences: 1) Much smaller user base 2) The Litmus ad on the right side of every page EDIT: The rest of me sees healthy competition and an interesting take on freemium marketing for their money-making app. :)

andreyf 17y ago
Much smaller user base Since SO content is licensed under creative commons, there's no reason they can't feed in all questions into SO... I suppose it might be tricky to merge votes of the (much larger) SO audience with votes of their audience, and has interesting implications to SO's business, but it's certainly doable.
webwright 17y ago
"1) Much smaller user base" Also a much more focused user base. From an advertising point of view, do you think it's easier to sell 10,000 uniques on a general web technology site or 5,000 uniques on a site that has a very specific audience like web designers?
- dangoldin 17y ago
  That's a pretty astute point. I can see them sharing the same database for both sites but displaying the CSS/HTML questions both on doctype and SO, but doctype restricted to CSS/HTML only. This will allow them to get content through multiple channels but allow them to sell more targeted ads on doctype.
- brown9-2 17y ago
  I would argue that the SO userbase is already highly focused - on developers. Its not "general technology site", just "general developers" site. Its not as if that's an especially large and poorly defined group. With a much smaller subset of potential users I think you'll also find a much more "focused" group of advertisers, i.e. a smaller group of interested advertisers.
forgotmypasswd 17y ago
My question got answered in 4 minutes. I cant complain

rudd 17y ago

Not exactly a gap. It's just trying to be a domain-specific site. There're plenty of examples of this. For example, you could view HN as a domain-specific digg or reddit, for tech/startups. Even though you can make a subreddit or similar. Perhaps they felt there was a lot of bad quality for HTML/CSS question and answers on StackOverflow, so they built this. I don't think so, but it's possible that the creators do.

triffid 17y ago
I think there are a lot of poor HTML/CSS questions and answers on Stack Overflow, but I don't think separating them other programming questions and from non-front-end programmers is really going to help anyone.

phenwoods 17y ago

From the Stackoverflow blog http://blog.stackoverflow.com http://blog.stackoverflow.com, this is an official sister site of Stackoverflow. Will this mean that HTML/CSS questions will be migrated from Stackoverflow?