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This is starting to be a pattern. Although Jony is obviously talented, he sure has driven a lot of talent from the company. At some point, that leaving talent
by outside1234 13y ago
This is starting to be a pattern. Although Jony is obviously talented, he sure has driven a lot of talent from the company.
At some point, that leaving talent points to a problem with Jony.
And then it will be Jony's turn.
- hugi 13y agoWhat talent has Ive driven from the company apart from Scott Forstall and this guy?
- cwe 13y agoJon Rubenstein had plenty of conflict with him (via the Jobs and Ive biographies), and Tony Fadell as well [1]. [1] http://www.cultofmac.com/262334/feud-jony-ive-keep-tony-fadell-returning-apple/ http://www.cultofmac.com/262334/feud-jony-ive-keep-tony-fade...
- pietro 13y agoThat’s enough.
- fidotron 13y agoHe may not get on with Ive, but Apple Maps was Forstall's downfall.
- christoph 13y agoI wonder how possible that would be given the quote in the Jobs biography: "He told Isaacson that Ive had 'more operational power' at Apple than anyone else besides Jobs himself — that there's no one at the company who can tell Ive what to do," the report said. "That, says Jobs, is 'the way I set it up.'"
- outside1234 13y agosee Steve Ballmer
- adventured 13y agoThe only actual legal structure protecting Ive's position at Apple is one in which Cook voluntarily complies with Jobs' stated wishes. That is to say, there is nothing stopping Cook from firing Ive tomorrow, changing his job title or control inside the company. Jobs may have also secured the board's agreement to protect Ive, but that too would rest merely on their voluntary compliance with such. In the corporate world, there's no such thing as a truly untouchable employee. The CEO, the board, or shareholders, someone can always get rid of you.
- gress 13y agoHow many people did Steve Jobs drive from the company on his return? (answer: the CEO, the whole board, and 1000's of employees)
- sirkneeland 13y agoAt some point the Western intellectual canon of rhetorical tropes and logical fallacies will need to be expanded to add the "because Steve Jobs" fallacy which seems to justify anything on the basis of Steve Jobs having done it (without regard to context, or that the party in question is not Steve Jobs)
- gress 13y agoThe point is that Jony pushing a few people out* as he takes control is hardly cause for concern. What would be cause for concern is if the people obviously responsible for Apple, I.e. I've and Cook, were timidly playing corporate politics instead of decisively leading. (* although it seems that the story of Christie leaving because of disagreement with Jony is actually a fabrication) [edit: downvote away, but it would be interesting to know what you disagree with)
- lttlrck 13y agoIt's a bit hard to judge from the outside isn't it?