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It's remotely the same thing because it's about him supporting politics that many sharply disagree with. It shows the hypocrisy of grabbing pitchforks and torc

by epaga 13y ago

It's remotely the same thing because it's about him supporting politics that many sharply disagree with. It shows the hypocrisy of grabbing pitchforks and torches and pushing out a brilliant mind just because you disagree with his views on marriage which are the same as 51% of all of California. My proposal: put down the pitchforks, pick up the coffee cups and talk and reason instead of pressure and bully.

matthewmacleod 13y ago
This is a weak argument. Eich's actions directly attempted to cause harm to a number of people in Mozilla and in the wider community he would have been a visible and important figure in. That's why this was different – a key requirement of Eich's position was to provide a leadership figure for the corporation and also the organisation as a whole, and it's really hard to get behind someone who's actively seeking to strip your rights or those of your friends and family. That's a large group of people to piss off and fail to apologise to.
akiselev 13y ago
> It's remotely the same thing because it's about him supporting politics that many sharply disagree with. You're talking about a nation with a blanket two party system, the world's largest economy, and an extreme tendency to involve itself with global affairs. I have an extreme aversion to voting for Republicans just due to the socially conservative views, but when the democratic candidates vocally support total global surveillance there's just no other choice. Supporting a candidate does not mean you support their every vote and as in all things with life, you just have to make compromises.
- joelrunyon 13y ago
  > Supporting a candidate does not mean you support their every vote and as in all things with life, you just have to make compromises. Funny how this works for candidates that you vote for but not for CEOS of products you use.
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  - akiselev 13y ago
    What are you talking about? It worked for the CEO of Mozilla too. Their community just made different compromises.
- adventured 13y ago
  Having numerous parties does not inherently help with anything. There are plenty of examples of countries, eg in Europe, with lots of parties and very dysfunctional political systems. What matters the most is the culture of a country, not whether it has 2, 4, 6, or 27 political parties. A dysfunctional culture with a dozen parties will still produce a dysfunctional political system.

by epaga 13y ago

matthewmacleod 13y ago

This is a weak argument. Eich's actions directly attempted to cause harm to a number of people in Mozilla and in the wider community he would have been a visible and important figure in. That's why this was different – a key requirement of Eich's position was to provide a leadership figure for the corporation and also the organisation as a whole, and it's really hard to get behind someone who's actively seeking to strip your rights or those of your friends and family. That's a large group of people to piss off and fail to apologise to.

akiselev 13y ago

> It's remotely the same thing because it's about him supporting politics that many sharply disagree with. You're talking about a nation with a blanket two party system, the world's largest economy, and an extreme tendency to involve itself with global affairs. I have an extreme aversion to voting for Republicans just due to the socially conservative views, but when the democratic candidates vocally support total global surveillance there's just no other choice. Supporting a candidate does not mean you support their every vote and as in all things with life, you just have to make compromises.

joelrunyon 13y ago
> Supporting a candidate does not mean you support their every vote and as in all things with life, you just have to make compromises. Funny how this works for candidates that you vote for but not for CEOS of products you use.
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- akiselev 13y ago
  What are you talking about? It worked for the CEO of Mozilla too. Their community just made different compromises.
adventured 13y ago
Having numerous parties does not inherently help with anything. There are plenty of examples of countries, eg in Europe, with lots of parties and very dysfunctional political systems. What matters the most is the culture of a country, not whether it has 2, 4, 6, or 27 political parties. A dysfunctional culture with a dozen parties will still produce a dysfunctional political system.