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I, in Italy, as a junior software developer, earn €17000/year. And genuinely I'm not complaining.
by mtct 13y ago
I, in Italy, as a junior software developer, earn €17000/year.
And genuinely I'm not complaining.
- w1ntermute 13y agoYeah, it's not really accurate for the PIGS , and even in northern Europe, it's not as high as in the States.
- forrestthewoods 13y agoPossibly a dumb question, what does PIGS mean?
- sthatipamala 13y agoMaybe "Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain"?
- atmosx 13y agoActually it's PIIGS you add Ireland to the mix and you're right.
- bdcravens 13y agoI had to look the term up, but my first guess was correct ("Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain") http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIGS_(economics) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIGS_(economics)
- mbesto 13y agoFYI - Another one I learned while being in Europe is FIGS, which sort of represents the "more economically developed" Euro languages - French, Italian, German, Spanish. This pretty much covers every nation you would need to speak to in order to do legitimate business in Europe. (Scandinavia generally will do business with English speakers)
- w1ntermute 13y agoThe Germans are pretty solid English speakers too. More so than the French, Italians, or Spaniards, anyway.
- pjmlp 13y agoI live in Germany, good luck trying to speak English outside the big cities or people with lower levels of education. Thankfully it doesn't matter to me as I speak the language fluently.
- V-2 13y agoI was about to flag him for being offensive to Italians ;)
- aditiyaa1 13y agoPortugal, Italy, Greece and Spain
- guard-of-terra 13y agoDoesn't sound like much. What lifestyle do you afford on this? Any improvement prospects?
- mtct 13y agoBetter than half of my peers for sure. Of course you can grow with time, both in salary and in responsibility, for now I'm the classical code monkey but I have an idea for a startup that would like to develop so I will leave the job before the end of the year.
- wsc981 13y agoI've read that many "young" Italians live in their parents house at least until their early 30s. Maybe he's in the same situation.
- mtct 13y agoActually yes, I live with my parents. I would probably be able to rent a small 1-room flat but for now I prefer to save money.
- atmosx 13y agoI'm not sure you know what you're talking about, 17k in Italy as junior-anything, is EXTREMELY well!
- guard-of-terra 13y agoI actually missed the junior part :)
- wallzz 13y agoI'm getting payed more than that for an internship in france!
- danmaz74 13y agoYou mean 17000 after taxes?
- mtct 13y agoYes
- MichaelGG 13y agoThat's like what, 22K before tax?
- danmaz74 13y agoMuch more - you should consider that under "taxes" in Italy we also consider medical coverage (which is actually part of the taxes) and a retirement plan (which is not actually a tax, but practically it's almost the same). The retirement plan for full time, normal employees, runs at an incredibly high 33% of your salary. In my personal opinion, this is the REAL problem here, more than taxes.
- atmosx 13y agoFirst of, congrats. Out of curiosity, what technologies are you paid to use? Rails/ObjC (ios)? Junior 17k in Italy? That sounds a little bit wild... NOTE: Sorry, I understood 17k per MONTH. Scratch the comment (keep the congrats! :-P )