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Well said, every time I heard someone use that excuse it comes to my mind what would it be if he put money on an association like the kkk?. Those people would s

by fabman 13y ago

Well said, every time I heard someone use that excuse it comes to my mind what would it be if he put money on an association like the kkk?. Those people would say too "I'm sorry to judge you for being a fucking racist"?. Because right now they're saying "I'm sorry to judge you because you're a fucking homophobic".

speeder 13y ago
I am seeing this.being.thrown.aromasso much, not.only in US but here in Brazil.too,.that when someone try to.insult me.calling me homophobic, I will reply: "yes, with pride" Seriously, homophobia was supposed to mean "strong fear or.aversion to homosexuals" not "opinion that homosexuals dislike"
- LukeB_UK 13y ago
  Correction, it's an irrational fear of homosexuals. You have absolutely no reason to fear them.
  - kjjw 13y ago
    Often an irrational fear leading to anger and hatred. Or is it the other way around?
  - popeshoe 13y ago
    and if you do, you might be interested to know there's experimental evidence of a correlation between homophobia in men and physical arousal to male homosexual stimuli. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014
    - pbhjpbhj 13y ago
      And what? The implication is that you'd like to throw your lot in with the "those who don't consider homosexuality to be right are really closet homosexuals" deception. If such papers bear out (I've seen one such study but didn't read this one) then are we supposed to say "we should just follow our basic sexual stimuli to determine our ethics". Riding the bus often gives me an erection, I must be bus-sexual; my right to marry a bus must be enshrined in law ...
intslack 13y ago
>if he put money on an association like the kkk? Great comparison, it's not like the KKK murdered thousands of people or anything.
- oneeyedpigeon 13y ago
  And thousands of people have been murdered in the name of homophobia. But this isn't really a numbers game; if, in the TWENTY-FIRST century, anyone is murdered, attacked, insulted, or treated in any way differently because of their sexual orientation, that is an outrage.
- joshstrange 13y ago
  Good point, it's not like members of the LGBT community have ever been beaten and killed for being LGBT.... Oh wait... Yes he didn't donate (directly) to a group that goes around beating and killing homosexuals but it's disingenuous to pretend they (KKK and homophobics) don't have plenty in common. First of which being hate.
  - intslack 13y ago
    So. to be clear, you're saying Brendan Eich is a homophobe?
    - joshstrange 13y ago
      Well Debate.org seems to agree with what I think you are trying to say which is "being against gay marriage does not make you a homophobe"[0], of course Slate would disagree with you [1], and The Atlantic would agree with you [2]. I could go on but I won't, I'll just tell you what I think: yes, It does. And yes, he was a homophobe, by giving to a group of people trying to destroy human rights for homosexuals. I think people can change but the complete lack of response on that specific issue from Brendan Eich makes me assume he still is. [0] http://www.debate.org/opinions/does-opposing-same-sex-marriage-make-you-a-homophobe http://www.debate.org/opinions/does-opposing-same-sex-marria... [1] http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2013/12/16/gay_marriage_opponents_homophobic_does_opposing_gay_marriage_make_you_a.html http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2013/12/16/gay_marriage_o... [2] http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/12/being-against-gay-marriage-doesnt-make-you-a-homophobe/282333/ http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/12/being-ag...

by fabman 13y ago

speeder 13y ago

I am seeing this.being.thrown.aromasso much, not.only in US but here in Brazil.too,.that when someone try to.insult me.calling me homophobic, I will reply: "yes, with pride" Seriously, homophobia was supposed to mean "strong fear or.aversion to homosexuals" not "opinion that homosexuals dislike"

LukeB_UK 13y ago
Correction, it's an irrational fear of homosexuals. You have absolutely no reason to fear them.
- kjjw 13y ago
  Often an irrational fear leading to anger and hatred. Or is it the other way around?
- popeshoe 13y ago
  and if you do, you might be interested to know there's experimental evidence of a correlation between homophobia in men and physical arousal to male homosexual stimuli. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014
  - pbhjpbhj 13y ago
    And what? The implication is that you'd like to throw your lot in with the "those who don't consider homosexuality to be right are really closet homosexuals" deception. If such papers bear out (I've seen one such study but didn't read this one) then are we supposed to say "we should just follow our basic sexual stimuli to determine our ethics". Riding the bus often gives me an erection, I must be bus-sexual; my right to marry a bus must be enshrined in law ...

intslack 13y ago

>if he put money on an association like the kkk? Great comparison, it's not like the KKK murdered thousands of people or anything.

oneeyedpigeon 13y ago
And thousands of people have been murdered in the name of homophobia. But this isn't really a numbers game; if, in the TWENTY-FIRST century, anyone is murdered, attacked, insulted, or treated in any way differently because of their sexual orientation, that is an outrage.
joshstrange 13y ago
Good point, it's not like members of the LGBT community have ever been beaten and killed for being LGBT.... Oh wait... Yes he didn't donate (directly) to a group that goes around beating and killing homosexuals but it's disingenuous to pretend they (KKK and homophobics) don't have plenty in common. First of which being hate.
- intslack 13y ago
  So. to be clear, you're saying Brendan Eich is a homophobe?
  - joshstrange 13y ago
    Well Debate.org seems to agree with what I think you are trying to say which is "being against gay marriage does not make you a homophobe"[0], of course Slate would disagree with you [1], and The Atlantic would agree with you [2]. I could go on but I won't, I'll just tell you what I think: yes, It does. And yes, he was a homophobe, by giving to a group of people trying to destroy human rights for homosexuals. I think people can change but the complete lack of response on that specific issue from Brendan Eich makes me assume he still is. [0] http://www.debate.org/opinions/does-opposing-same-sex-marriage-make-you-a-homophobe http://www.debate.org/opinions/does-opposing-same-sex-marria... [1] http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2013/12/16/gay_marriage_opponents_homophobic_does_opposing_gay_marriage_make_you_a.html http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2013/12/16/gay_marriage_o... [2] http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/12/being-against-gay-marriage-doesnt-make-you-a-homophobe/282333/ http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/12/being-ag...