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I think it's funny that this is right next to the interview with Rich Hickey :)

• fogus 17y ago
  If you look at the source for Clojure you'll see many (if not all) of these techniques used throughout with an additional focus on static classes and methods.
  • francoisdevlin 17y ago
    I guess what I was getting at is that real next gen style uses the JVM, not Java. Down with Java, long live the JVM
    • jimbokun 17y ago
      In the meantime, if Java teams start implementing these practices, and more Java developers get comfortable with them, making the leap to Clojure, Scala, etc. won't be such a shock. Those languages will just require less boiler plate to write the kinds of programs they are already writing.
    • coliveira 17y ago
      I don't see why people love the JVM if they don't like Java. I agree that it is nice to have lots of libraries for free, but you also have the burden and limitations of living with something that was created specifically for Java. Languages such as Python and Ruby have been much more successful outside the JVM.
      • mahmud 17y ago
        They love the JVM because it's everywhere they want their apps to be; ubiquity has its own beauty.