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It is very possible and I'm remarkably tempted to do it myself in my free-time. I also believe that was the intent of Patrick posting this publicly - to stimul

by ixmatus 13y ago

It is very possible and I'm remarkably tempted to do it myself in my free-time. I also believe that was the intent of Patrick posting this publicly - to stimulate Colin into realizing what people really fucking want and that someone may actually go build a better tarsnap using tarsnap if he doesn't. I'm sick of Tarsnap's complete disregard for its users; charge more money, listen to your users, improve the product! WITH ALL OF YOUR SURPLUS MONEY, INSTEAD OF BUYING A $2MILLION DOLLAR MANSION, DONATE IT TO THE FREEBSD FOUNDATION. Holy shit! What could HE DO FOR FREEBSD with the personal surplus in income from properly implementing Tarsnap as a business!?!?! IT'S FUCKING MIND BOGGLING. </rant>

maxerickson 13y ago
The source code of the client is not under a liberal license. I guess lawyers could argue about whether reselling the service fell under 'using'. (I don't mean this to be hostile to the licensing, I just think that it is a big thing getting in the way of it being very possible to do as you say)
- ixmatus 13y ago
  A point worth considering, the spirit of what I said though should be considered - not specifically the details. The spirit being, that someone WILL fill this gap in the market. Someone. I would rather it be Tarsnap and Colin; though.
  - atmosx 13y ago
    You see a gap in the market, the op does, other comments do. But none is going to roll their own replacement because they are involved elsewhere - I see a gap in the reasoning not in the market :-)
atmosx 13y ago
You do it. You're free to become rich yourself and donate half your fortune to the FreeBSD project we all love. Do FreeBSD a favor and make an tarsnap wrapper for businesses who need to pay 1.500 USD monthly to feel secure.
- ixmatus 13y ago
  I would love to but I'm building a different company focused on helping people optimize their home energy - I plan to do it (get rich) on that one. You also mis-characterized what I said. Completely. But whatever, pretty typical Hacker News. It's actually really an interesting dichotomy: there are so many brilliant hackers on here that believe asking for a lot of money for a valuable product and service is evil and yet they're all participating on a forum built and hosted by an organization that specializes in smacking hackers with a fish until they realize the deep and fundamental mistake in that way of thinking. My argument was that many different kinds of good can be had from the availability of resources and casting resource acquisition in a stigmatic light is cutting innovation off at the knees. All because some less enlightened people figured out how to acquire a lot of resources and use them in non-society friendly ways. Do you really believe Elon Musk could have turned Tesla into such an awesome company by being Geek2Geek? Fuck no. Elon understands the value of charging for value and how much more value he can usher into the world - so do other amazing entrepreneurs. I would rather see cperciva acquiring a lot of resources than many other people in the world. I would rather see a lot of people on Hacker News be wealthy people instead the alternatives out there - but they never will be until money and the having of it is no longer stigmatized by them. For many businesses, $1,500.00 per month to feel secure is pennies. I would rather see Tarsnap, an actually secure service, pulling in that revenue than other "secure" offerings that actually aren't.
  - ixmatus 13y ago
    To provide some scale reference: my previous company an SEO metrics company had customers paying $1,500.00 per month or more just to know where their customer's URL's were in Google search results. If there are people willing to pay that much for that, what and who do you think exists out there that would pay 5x that amount to make sure a $25Million class action lawsuit is launched against them? Or to protect hundreds of millions in assets? If the assets I'm backing up are worth millions to me (tangibly), spending $20,000.00 per month for highly secure and reliable backups is easy.

by ixmatus 13y ago

maxerickson 13y ago

The source code of the client is not under a liberal license. I guess lawyers could argue about whether reselling the service fell under 'using'. (I don't mean this to be hostile to the licensing, I just think that it is a big thing getting in the way of it being very possible to do as you say)

ixmatus 13y ago
A point worth considering, the spirit of what I said though should be considered - not specifically the details. The spirit being, that someone WILL fill this gap in the market. Someone. I would rather it be Tarsnap and Colin; though.
- atmosx 13y ago
  You see a gap in the market, the op does, other comments do. But none is going to roll their own replacement because they are involved elsewhere - I see a gap in the reasoning not in the market :-)

atmosx 13y ago

You do it. You're free to become rich yourself and donate half your fortune to the FreeBSD project we all love. Do FreeBSD a favor and make an tarsnap wrapper for businesses who need to pay 1.500 USD monthly to feel secure.

ixmatus 13y ago
I would love to but I'm building a different company focused on helping people optimize their home energy - I plan to do it (get rich) on that one. You also mis-characterized what I said. Completely. But whatever, pretty typical Hacker News. It's actually really an interesting dichotomy: there are so many brilliant hackers on here that believe asking for a lot of money for a valuable product and service is evil and yet they're all participating on a forum built and hosted by an organization that specializes in smacking hackers with a fish until they realize the deep and fundamental mistake in that way of thinking. My argument was that many different kinds of good can be had from the availability of resources and casting resource acquisition in a stigmatic light is cutting innovation off at the knees. All because some less enlightened people figured out how to acquire a lot of resources and use them in non-society friendly ways. Do you really believe Elon Musk could have turned Tesla into such an awesome company by being Geek2Geek? Fuck no. Elon understands the value of charging for value and how much more value he can usher into the world - so do other amazing entrepreneurs. I would rather see cperciva acquiring a lot of resources than many other people in the world. I would rather see a lot of people on Hacker News be wealthy people instead the alternatives out there - but they never will be until money and the having of it is no longer stigmatized by them. For many businesses, $1,500.00 per month to feel secure is pennies. I would rather see Tarsnap, an actually secure service, pulling in that revenue than other "secure" offerings that actually aren't.
- ixmatus 13y ago
  To provide some scale reference: my previous company an SEO metrics company had customers paying $1,500.00 per month or more just to know where their customer's URL's were in Google search results. If there are people willing to pay that much for that, what and who do you think exists out there that would pay 5x that amount to make sure a $25Million class action lawsuit is launched against them? Or to protect hundreds of millions in assets? If the assets I'm backing up are worth millions to me (tangibly), spending $20,000.00 per month for highly secure and reliable backups is easy.