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My #1 question -- is Eich returning to CTO, another position, or quitting altogether? All in all, I think this was a pragmatic move. I am not a fan of this "CE

My #1 question -- is Eich returning to CTO, another position, or quitting altogether? All in all, I think this was a pragmatic move. I am not a fan of this "CEO = literally the company" logic, though. I saw no reason to believe that he would use Mozilla to further an anti-gay agenda.

zabraxias 13y ago
He's leaving. Which is typical for CEOs even if his tenure ended positively.
avenger123 13y ago
The statement was intentionally vague in this. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays in a C-level position.
- Borogove 13y ago
  Oddly, I have little problem with him staying as CTO. CEO is symbolic.
dopamean 13y ago
> I saw no reason to believe that he would use Mozilla to further an anti-gay agenda. I agree. However, it's a little weird if you say you are a company who values diversity and different lifestyles but you have a CEO who is openly against a particular group of people. That kind of contradiction at the very top makes things weird.
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- veemjeem 13y ago
  People change too. You can't hold it against someone all their life because they donated $1000 to prop 8. For the rest of his life, people will look at Eich differently simply due to the small donation amount many decades ago.
  - quaunaut 13y ago
    And he can speak about it if he does? It's okay to change your mind. He's had all week to talk about it, if he has already. But he hasn't. If you're worried about his future career, I understand. But if he changes his mind he can equally talk about it with potential employers/partners. If he doesn't, then he gets to live with the consequences of his choices the same way someone who is out about their sexuality does.
- facepalm 13y ago
  Has he ever said anything against gays? Being opposed to gay marriage is not the same as being opposed to gays.
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  - quaunaut 13y ago
    Yes it is. Lets not make useless differences here, it is. To think there isn't is somehow thinking someone having fewer rights than you do is still legally equal to you.
    - marknutter 13y ago
      Does being against polygamist marriages make you against polygamists?
    - ralfd 13y ago
      What about people who think marriage is silly anyway?
    - facepalm 13y ago
      It depends on what you consider the goal of marriage, or what the rights specifically are. Seems to me there are lots of people who can't marry, for example children. Why do they have "fewer rights"?
zobzu 13y ago
i'm pretty sure hes quitting.

zabraxias 13y ago

He's leaving. Which is typical for CEOs even if his tenure ended positively.

avenger123 13y ago

The statement was intentionally vague in this. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays in a C-level position.

Borogove 13y ago
Oddly, I have little problem with him staying as CTO. CEO is symbolic.

dopamean 13y ago

> I saw no reason to believe that he would use Mozilla to further an anti-gay agenda. I agree. However, it's a little weird if you say you are a company who values diversity and different lifestyles but you have a CEO who is openly against a particular group of people. That kind of contradiction at the very top makes things weird.

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veemjeem 13y ago
People change too. You can't hold it against someone all their life because they donated $1000 to prop 8. For the rest of his life, people will look at Eich differently simply due to the small donation amount many decades ago.
- quaunaut 13y ago
  And he can speak about it if he does? It's okay to change your mind. He's had all week to talk about it, if he has already. But he hasn't. If you're worried about his future career, I understand. But if he changes his mind he can equally talk about it with potential employers/partners. If he doesn't, then he gets to live with the consequences of his choices the same way someone who is out about their sexuality does.
facepalm 13y ago
Has he ever said anything against gays? Being opposed to gay marriage is not the same as being opposed to gays.
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- quaunaut 13y ago
  Yes it is. Lets not make useless differences here, it is. To think there isn't is somehow thinking someone having fewer rights than you do is still legally equal to you.
  - marknutter 13y ago
    Does being against polygamist marriages make you against polygamists?
  - ralfd 13y ago
    What about people who think marriage is silly anyway?
  - facepalm 13y ago
    It depends on what you consider the goal of marriage, or what the rights specifically are. Seems to me there are lots of people who can't marry, for example children. Why do they have "fewer rights"?

zobzu 13y ago

i'm pretty sure hes quitting.