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I actually read through one of those links, and wow, they really really went through great pains to explain every single decision with data and tracking. This r

I actually read through one of those links, and wow, they really really went through great pains to explain every single decision with data and tracking. This really puts today's announcement into a new light. How DID they so blindly ignore the voices of users and trick themselves into believing the metro UI was better using all that data? There's so much of it that purportedly supports their old view. I'm one who's never adapted to the new Windows 8, and prefer Windows 7 any time I have a choice. I actually feel that I use my laptop a lot less because it has Windows 8 on it.

chris_mahan 13y ago
That's because they stopped listening to people and started listening to data. Let that be a warning to all these "data-driven-anything" people.
diydsp 13y ago
From what I remember, they were pointing out an overwhelming majority of their users were only pressing the same 8 or so buttons at the bottom of the taskbar to start apps. And I'm on board with that. It's just that one needs the Start Menu to get those 8 or so buttons into the taskbar in the first place!!!! "Yes, Mrs. Bathwater? Your baby is...thataway!"
- nazgulnarsil 13y ago
  haha just looked at my taskbar. 8 apps.
atmosx 13y ago
I don't know really. Since Balmer kicked in, Microsoft's decision making process is a sort of a mystery. Can a company with so deep pockets, so well establish fail consequently? There are still around people running Windows XP because they consider them superior. I never had issues with Vista or 7 (although never used them as a desktop), but Windows 8 are a new low...
Already__Taken 13y ago
“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” - Henry Ford Casing user opinion is in my opinion a pretty terrible way to do UX. It's an interactive process not a committee one. I imagine they ignored all the noise by filtering out all comments about issues they already addressed, then looked at how the ribbon ui went down and ended up a superb success. I support end users. Most wouldn't go into 'all programs' unless directed. None know that panel as the "start menu" any more since they took the word 'start' off it. It's just not that big of a deal to skip over every other cool thing in 8 to stick on 7. Personally I want to see windowed metro apps, the start screen maybe the bottom half height/full width of my display (13" 1080p) and a transparent background. That would be good I think. The corners are a nice idea although i never really use the left one. Can we all use this effort to cry for a feature that would actually help like say, native virtual desktops in Windows? Wicked useful.
namlem 13y ago
I have a Venue 8 pro that is my only Windows 8 device and I love it. I don't know that I would like this in a larger/more expensive device, but it pretty much kicks the shit out of a Nexus 7. The screen isn't as nice, and the UI isn't as smooth, but an x86 and the ability to install Windows apps makes up for it easily.

chris_mahan 13y ago

That's because they stopped listening to people and started listening to data. Let that be a warning to all these "data-driven-anything" people.

diydsp 13y ago

From what I remember, they were pointing out an overwhelming majority of their users were only pressing the same 8 or so buttons at the bottom of the taskbar to start apps. And I'm on board with that. It's just that one needs the Start Menu to get those 8 or so buttons into the taskbar in the first place!!!! "Yes, Mrs. Bathwater? Your baby is...thataway!"

nazgulnarsil 13y ago
haha just looked at my taskbar. 8 apps.

atmosx 13y ago

I don't know really. Since Balmer kicked in, Microsoft's decision making process is a sort of a mystery. Can a company with so deep pockets, so well establish fail consequently? There are still around people running Windows XP because they consider them superior. I never had issues with Vista or 7 (although never used them as a desktop), but Windows 8 are a new low...

Already__Taken 13y ago

“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” - Henry Ford Casing user opinion is in my opinion a pretty terrible way to do UX. It's an interactive process not a committee one. I imagine they ignored all the noise by filtering out all comments about issues they already addressed, then looked at how the ribbon ui went down and ended up a superb success. I support end users. Most wouldn't go into 'all programs' unless directed. None know that panel as the "start menu" any more since they took the word 'start' off it. It's just not that big of a deal to skip over every other cool thing in 8 to stick on 7. Personally I want to see windowed metro apps, the start screen maybe the bottom half height/full width of my display (13" 1080p) and a transparent background. That would be good I think. The corners are a nice idea although i never really use the left one. Can we all use this effort to cry for a feature that would actually help like say, native virtual desktops in Windows? Wicked useful.

namlem 13y ago

I have a Venue 8 pro that is my only Windows 8 device and I love it. I don't know that I would like this in a larger/more expensive device, but it pretty much kicks the shit out of a Nexus 7. The screen isn't as nice, and the UI isn't as smooth, but an x86 and the ability to install Windows apps makes up for it easily.