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That's sad, but you are not doing drugs - you can quit easily, just do it! Try to do sports or stuff like that, travel.. Seriously, alcohol is disgusting if you

by homakov 13y ago

That's sad, but you are not doing drugs - you can quit easily, just do it! Try to do sports or stuff like that, travel.. Seriously, alcohol is disgusting if you drink it every day. I have a hooker problem, no joke. Since we are talking about addictions here?

norswap 13y ago
Alcohol is addictive. More so than pot for instance, which is often classified as a drug. To be honest, alcohol is a drug also. This is not just my impression: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_dependence#Addictive_potential http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_dependence#Addictive_...
ama729 13y ago
The only difference between alcohol and "drugs" is that alcohol is legal. It's one of the most addicting drugs you can find[1]. Withdrawing alcohol improperly can also lead to permanent brain damage and death[2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome#Prognosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome#Pr...
stinos 13y ago
That's sad, but you are not doing drugs serisously, this nonsense has to stop. Alcohol = drugs and whoever tells otherwise doesn't properly understand what drugs are and how they work on your mind and body. Note: I tried a lot of stuff out there, and in the end alcohol is just one of the others, sole difference being it's 'accepted', sort of (btw same is true for quite a lot of the prescription things as well) - you can quit easily it's not that easy at all, highly depends on your mindset just do it! at least that makes sense :]
- homakov 13y ago
  To you and others - i didn't know it's not a drug. It was my opinion, apparently wrong. Thanks for clarifications! Will do beers only on fridays then!
  - Snail_Commando 13y ago
    > To you and others - i didn't know it's not a drug. It was my opinion, apparently wrong. Thanks for clarifications! Will do beers only on fridays then! But it's not an opinion, it was a factually incorrect statement. There is a distinction. The only reasons people categorize the two as different are societal, cultural, and legal. Not by any empirical, scientific standard. In the end it is a chemical that has an intoxicating, mind altering effect on the body. Which is, by definition, a drug. Acting as though alcohol is somehow "not a drug" or that alcohol addiction is somehow distinct from "drug addiction" is unproductive at best, lethal at worst.
hughsk 13y ago
Alcohol is a drug. Unlike most other drugs though, alcohol withdrawal can be life-threatening and often requires hospitalization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome
AddictThrowaway 13y ago
Speaking as a recovering addict and alcoholic, trivializing alcohol addiction and the effort it takes to recover from it is both incorrect and potentially harmful. Speaking personally, alcohol has been incredibly hard to break away from and did as much or more damage to my life than my other drugs of choice. Speaking more scientifically, alcohol withdrawal has the potential to kill you if you don't seek help[1]. It's absolutely miserable even when you don't die, of course. I understand that people can be addicted to all kinds of things, and that some addictions such as gambling have the potential to ruin lives just like substance abuse. However, alcohol is a powerful, absurdly common, physically addictive substance. Quitting was necessary for me, but a phrase like "you can quit easily, just do it!" is wrong to the point that it's almost offensive. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome
- homakov 13y ago
  Hm, how to differ "i'm addicted and can die" and "i just like beer"? Is there obvious symptoms ?
  - AddictThrowaway 13y ago
    I mean for someone like me it was pretty obvious. At some point you don't drink for a day and you get the shakes, or you realize that you're getting blackout drunk every weekend, or friends make comments about how much you drink, or a whole host of other things. I spent a few years living in denial, but I knew years before I stopped that I had a problem. I don't know of a great way to answer the question "am I an addict?" that doesn't require some serious introspection. That being said, one thing I often tell people is that if they're honestly, seriously concerned that they're drinking too much and if they're asking me whether they're an alcoholic, it's something worth looking in to. Before I abused alcohol, I abused prescription stimulants. Sometimes I'd take them and then spend hours browsing wikipedia reading about their addictive potential, or reading about how abuse of stimulants was spreading across America. It was a pretty obvious warning sign. The reason I know I'm an addict is because once I start drinking/popping pills, I really can't stop myself. I keep drinking until I pass out, or keep binging on pills until I'm out and I haven't slept in days. AA has the saying "one [drink] is too many, and a thousand is never enough", and it certainly applies to me. Most addicts I've talked to feel the same way.

by homakov 13y ago

norswap 13y ago

Alcohol is addictive. More so than pot for instance, which is often classified as a drug. To be honest, alcohol is a drug also. This is not just my impression: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_dependence#Addictive_potential http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_dependence#Addictive_...

ama729 13y ago

The only difference between alcohol and "drugs" is that alcohol is legal. It's one of the most addicting drugs you can find[1]. Withdrawing alcohol improperly can also lead to permanent brain damage and death[2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome#Prognosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome#Pr...

stinos 13y ago

That's sad, but you are not doing drugs serisously, this nonsense has to stop. Alcohol = drugs and whoever tells otherwise doesn't properly understand what drugs are and how they work on your mind and body. Note: I tried a lot of stuff out there, and in the end alcohol is just one of the others, sole difference being it's 'accepted', sort of (btw same is true for quite a lot of the prescription things as well) - you can quit easily it's not that easy at all, highly depends on your mindset just do it! at least that makes sense :]

homakov 13y ago
To you and others - i didn't know it's not a drug. It was my opinion, apparently wrong. Thanks for clarifications! Will do beers only on fridays then!
- Snail_Commando 13y ago
  > To you and others - i didn't know it's not a drug. It was my opinion, apparently wrong. Thanks for clarifications! Will do beers only on fridays then! But it's not an opinion, it was a factually incorrect statement. There is a distinction. The only reasons people categorize the two as different are societal, cultural, and legal. Not by any empirical, scientific standard. In the end it is a chemical that has an intoxicating, mind altering effect on the body. Which is, by definition, a drug. Acting as though alcohol is somehow "not a drug" or that alcohol addiction is somehow distinct from "drug addiction" is unproductive at best, lethal at worst.

hughsk 13y ago

Alcohol is a drug. Unlike most other drugs though, alcohol withdrawal can be life-threatening and often requires hospitalization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome

AddictThrowaway 13y ago

Speaking as a recovering addict and alcoholic, trivializing alcohol addiction and the effort it takes to recover from it is both incorrect and potentially harmful. Speaking personally, alcohol has been incredibly hard to break away from and did as much or more damage to my life than my other drugs of choice. Speaking more scientifically, alcohol withdrawal has the potential to kill you if you don't seek help[1]. It's absolutely miserable even when you don't die, of course. I understand that people can be addicted to all kinds of things, and that some addictions such as gambling have the potential to ruin lives just like substance abuse. However, alcohol is a powerful, absurdly common, physically addictive substance. Quitting was necessary for me, but a phrase like "you can quit easily, just do it!" is wrong to the point that it's almost offensive. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome

homakov 13y ago
Hm, how to differ "i'm addicted and can die" and "i just like beer"? Is there obvious symptoms ?
- AddictThrowaway 13y ago
  I mean for someone like me it was pretty obvious. At some point you don't drink for a day and you get the shakes, or you realize that you're getting blackout drunk every weekend, or friends make comments about how much you drink, or a whole host of other things. I spent a few years living in denial, but I knew years before I stopped that I had a problem. I don't know of a great way to answer the question "am I an addict?" that doesn't require some serious introspection. That being said, one thing I often tell people is that if they're honestly, seriously concerned that they're drinking too much and if they're asking me whether they're an alcoholic, it's something worth looking in to. Before I abused alcohol, I abused prescription stimulants. Sometimes I'd take them and then spend hours browsing wikipedia reading about their addictive potential, or reading about how abuse of stimulants was spreading across America. It was a pretty obvious warning sign. The reason I know I'm an addict is because once I start drinking/popping pills, I really can't stop myself. I keep drinking until I pass out, or keep binging on pills until I'm out and I haven't slept in days. AA has the saying "one [drink] is too many, and a thousand is never enough", and it certainly applies to me. Most addicts I've talked to feel the same way.