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The factors we analyze in nutrition is calories, macro nutrient content, and micro nutrient content. In terms of obesity, what we really care about is satiation

The factors we analyze in nutrition is calories, macro nutrient content, and micro nutrient content. In terms of obesity, what we really care about is satiation and satiety. These are words that no one talks about, and but get to the core of the issue. If I eat this food, how many calories will I consume before feeling full?(satiation). After eating this food, how long until I feel the need to eat again? (sateity). Unfortunately the research and measurements of these values is thin. We need to fix that. We already know things like whole milk better provides satiation and sateity than skim milk, and children that drink whole milk actually have less obesity than skim milk drinkers. If we just measured and labeled foods with a sateity/satiation index (what we really care about), then people would actually have a chance to pick better foods. Right now it is damn near impossible to determine if eating eggs and bacon for breakfast is more likely to drive over eating vs cereal. It can be measured, but we just don't do it.

sekm 13y ago
If you want a good measure then look at the carbs. More carbs approximates to less satiety. It's all based on where the food sits in terms of its Glycemic Index. High GI foods trigger an insulin release and insulin effectively tells your cells to lower your blood sure levels. Lower blood sugar reduces the feeling of satiety, aka makes you hungry. By avoiding insulin releases in the first place (sweet/grainy/starchy shit) you'll come out a far healthier person.
- Tarrosion 13y ago
  From personal experience, I believe that it's not always so simple. When I eat a steak for dinner (rare), I notice that even right after the meal I feel incomplete, and I'm hungry within an hour or two. When I eat a muffin for lunch, I feel content for several hours. (And the muffin has about 2/3 the calories of the steak.)
  - adventured 13y ago
    It's a very interesting contrast of experiences. When I eat a steak I'm not hungry for a long time afterward (whereas a muffin doesn't sate nearly as well). It makes me wonder what causes such a variance between people with regards to how they experience food.
  - aytekin 13y ago
    For a better a/b test you should compare apples to apples. Maybe you just expect to eat more for dinner, and you eat less at lunch.
- ekianjo 13y ago
  > If you want a good measure then look at the carbs. More carbs approximates to less satiety. Any source you can refer to ?
sliverstorm 13y ago
Personally, I don't think about satiation and satiety because hunger hasn't been a big deciding factor in my eating choices for the past 10 years. (I've practically forgotten what it feels like to feel full, and I don't miss it. Thanksgiving is rough some years)
jvagner 13y ago
i eat at 8a, 11a, 3p and 7p every day. doesn't matter what i eat. i'm never hungry. and i'm an athlete who eats a caloric deficit.

sekm 13y ago

If you want a good measure then look at the carbs. More carbs approximates to less satiety. It's all based on where the food sits in terms of its Glycemic Index. High GI foods trigger an insulin release and insulin effectively tells your cells to lower your blood sure levels. Lower blood sugar reduces the feeling of satiety, aka makes you hungry. By avoiding insulin releases in the first place (sweet/grainy/starchy shit) you'll come out a far healthier person.

Tarrosion 13y ago
From personal experience, I believe that it's not always so simple. When I eat a steak for dinner (rare), I notice that even right after the meal I feel incomplete, and I'm hungry within an hour or two. When I eat a muffin for lunch, I feel content for several hours. (And the muffin has about 2/3 the calories of the steak.)
- adventured 13y ago
  It's a very interesting contrast of experiences. When I eat a steak I'm not hungry for a long time afterward (whereas a muffin doesn't sate nearly as well). It makes me wonder what causes such a variance between people with regards to how they experience food.
- aytekin 13y ago
  For a better a/b test you should compare apples to apples. Maybe you just expect to eat more for dinner, and you eat less at lunch.
ekianjo 13y ago
> If you want a good measure then look at the carbs. More carbs approximates to less satiety. Any source you can refer to ?

sliverstorm 13y ago

Personally, I don't think about satiation and satiety because hunger hasn't been a big deciding factor in my eating choices for the past 10 years. (I've practically forgotten what it feels like to feel full, and I don't miss it. Thanksgiving is rough some years)

jvagner 13y ago

i eat at 8a, 11a, 3p and 7p every day. doesn't matter what i eat. i'm never hungry. and i'm an athlete who eats a caloric deficit.