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What's "ok" to eat can depend on your ancestry. It makes no sense to point at different populations and say "it must be ok since they're doing it".

sethammons 13y ago
I've read that Inuit have a larger liver. I wonder if this is a case of genetics or if increasing the percent of meat in your diet leads to a larger liver.
- seanmcdirmid 13y ago
  Agriculture is a recent invention, only about 10kya old, and many cultures never adopted it for various reasons. It makes sense that evolution has had a bit of time to work its random magic on plant eaters.
seanmcdirmid 13y ago
Who said anything about ancestry? The developed western world bias on HN is disturbing. What you eat depends on what you can get from the land you live in. You can't grow much above 4,000 meters or near the arctic, obviously. Indians are mostly vegetarian because you can grow alot in India, the much of the rest of the world isn't so lucky (I always crave veggies whenever I tour in high country because they are so unavailable).
- eshvk 13y ago
  > Indians are mostly vegetarian because you can grow alot in India "mostly"? I would love to know where this statistic was pulled from? Personal experience living in India for 5 years suggests that only Brahmin Hindus and a few other castes are purely vegetarian. Every one else eats meat albeit not as frequently as Americans. Wikipedia stats suggests 20-40% (a huge variance).
  - seanmcdirmid 13y ago
    Even Indians who eat meat still eat a lot of (and probably more) veggies. I didn't say "most indians were vegetarians." The semantics police are out in full force today :) BTW, The Microsoft cafeteria in Bangalore is pure veg.
  - jpatokal 13y ago
    As in, Indian food is mostly vegetarian, not that most Indian people are strict vegetarians. When I was working in Delhi, the office canteen offer only veg food 4 days a week, with an optional meat item for a small surcharge on Fridays only. Down south, 100% veg food in restaurants is pretty much the rule, not the exception, although it's not hard to find fish/meat if you look. Also, a good Indian friend of mine is nearly 100% vegetarian, except that every now and then he gets a craving for a cheeseburger. That's "mostly vegetarian" in my book. ...and getting back to the health thing, it's kind of striking how many obese Indians are Brahmins, who may keep veg but like to slather everything in ghee (clarified butter).
    - eshvk 13y ago
      > ...and getting back to the health thing, it's kind of striking how many obese Indians are Brahmins, who may keep veg but like to slather everything in ghee (clarified butter). Vegetarianism != Healthy. A diet high in protein/fat doesn't necessarily have a causal link with weight increase. The problem is eating beyond what your BMR/TDEE is. A large portion of Indian food is calorifically rich, e.g. bowls of rice and flat breads.
- yaketysax 13y ago
  "What you eat depends on what you can get from the land you live in." yes... and so different groups of people were under different pressures. So when oneeyedpigeon said "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.", and you responded mentioning the Inuits, I decided to remind you that that's not relevant. You haven't made a counterargument to the claim that you should be eating mostly plants. A given person's ancestors were probably not under the same sort of pressure to consume meats.
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sethammons 13y ago

I've read that Inuit have a larger liver. I wonder if this is a case of genetics or if increasing the percent of meat in your diet leads to a larger liver.

seanmcdirmid 13y ago
Agriculture is a recent invention, only about 10kya old, and many cultures never adopted it for various reasons. It makes sense that evolution has had a bit of time to work its random magic on plant eaters.

seanmcdirmid 13y ago

Who said anything about ancestry? The developed western world bias on HN is disturbing. What you eat depends on what you can get from the land you live in. You can't grow much above 4,000 meters or near the arctic, obviously. Indians are mostly vegetarian because you can grow alot in India, the much of the rest of the world isn't so lucky (I always crave veggies whenever I tour in high country because they are so unavailable).

eshvk 13y ago
> Indians are mostly vegetarian because you can grow alot in India "mostly"? I would love to know where this statistic was pulled from? Personal experience living in India for 5 years suggests that only Brahmin Hindus and a few other castes are purely vegetarian. Every one else eats meat albeit not as frequently as Americans. Wikipedia stats suggests 20-40% (a huge variance).
- seanmcdirmid 13y ago
  Even Indians who eat meat still eat a lot of (and probably more) veggies. I didn't say "most indians were vegetarians." The semantics police are out in full force today :) BTW, The Microsoft cafeteria in Bangalore is pure veg.
- jpatokal 13y ago
  As in, Indian food is mostly vegetarian, not that most Indian people are strict vegetarians. When I was working in Delhi, the office canteen offer only veg food 4 days a week, with an optional meat item for a small surcharge on Fridays only. Down south, 100% veg food in restaurants is pretty much the rule, not the exception, although it's not hard to find fish/meat if you look. Also, a good Indian friend of mine is nearly 100% vegetarian, except that every now and then he gets a craving for a cheeseburger. That's "mostly vegetarian" in my book. ...and getting back to the health thing, it's kind of striking how many obese Indians are Brahmins, who may keep veg but like to slather everything in ghee (clarified butter).
  - eshvk 13y ago
    > ...and getting back to the health thing, it's kind of striking how many obese Indians are Brahmins, who may keep veg but like to slather everything in ghee (clarified butter). Vegetarianism != Healthy. A diet high in protein/fat doesn't necessarily have a causal link with weight increase. The problem is eating beyond what your BMR/TDEE is. A large portion of Indian food is calorifically rich, e.g. bowls of rice and flat breads.
yaketysax 13y ago
"What you eat depends on what you can get from the land you live in." yes... and so different groups of people were under different pressures. So when oneeyedpigeon said "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.", and you responded mentioning the Inuits, I decided to remind you that that's not relevant. You haven't made a counterargument to the claim that you should be eating mostly plants. A given person's ancestors were probably not under the same sort of pressure to consume meats.
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