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Does your company use Python? The Python Software Foundation wants to know.

41 points by VanL 17y ago

koenbok 17y ago
If anyone involved is reading this, it would be nice to have an option for the Netherlands. You know, where Python was _invented_ ;-)
- paulgb 17y ago
  I see "The Netherlands/Belgium" on the list. edit: Saw VanL's comment, looks like he meant to reply to this thread. That was a fast fix.
VanL 17y ago
<blink>. Missed that. The form has been updated.
plinkplonk 17y ago
I wish there were good companies in India using Python. Most companies claiming to do so just tack on Python to a long list of languages they use and don't really use it significantly. I know great programmers who would kill for a decent paying job in Django/Python. The "do crap work outsourced to India" idea is what the Indian software industry is built around. Lots of java/dotnet.Some Ruby on Rails, thanks to the marketing of RoR. Very little python. :(
- donw 17y ago
  Not to sound like, well, everybody else on the site, but if you think there's a market for it, why not start up an Indian Python consultancy? Hell, even "Indian Python" sounds cool.
  - deleted 17y ago
    [deleted]
  - kirubakaran 17y ago
    Or "Indian Rock Python" "One of the unique features of the Rock pythons of India is that they can raise their body temperature above the ambient level, through muscular contractions." http://www.iloveindia.com/wildlife/indian-snakes/python.html http://www.iloveindia.com/wildlife/indian-snakes/python.html
- visitor4rmindia 17y ago
  We are 100% Indian product company - the product is Indian and built for the Indian market (although we have customers in 80 countries). I would classify us as a "very good company" and we use python for our scripting needs though our major work is in C/C++. Does that make you feel a bit better? :-)
  - plinkplonk 17y ago
    "I would classify us as a "very good company" and we use python for our scripting needs though our major work is in C/C++. Does that make you feel a bit better? :-)" Which company is this anyway? What is your product?
    - visitor4rmindia 17y ago
      Tally (www.tallysolutions.com)
      - plinkplonk 17y ago
        Interesting, I thought Tally was written in C (C++? I knew someone who worked on Tally long ago . I have the impression it was primarily C or C++ ). You did say scripting - Do you use much Python? What's the ratio of Python to C++/C?
        visitor4rmindia 17y ago
        Tally is entirely written in C/C++/assembly + TDL (which is a DSL). However, to manage development, we have our own in-house SCM tool (which uses SVN as a backend). This tool is written entirely in python. Additionally, some small build utilities etc are also written in python. That's what I meant by "scripting needs". Apologies for the slow replies btw - I haven't been checking HN regularly.
        plinkplonk 17y ago
        "Tally is entirely written in C/C++/assembly + TDL (which is a DSL)." Interesting! I once knew some people who wanted to create a "startup" to compete aginst Tally. It didn't go anywhere, but I thought it was an interesting idea. "Apologies for the slow replies btw " No worries.
- nibrahim 17y ago
  While not as much as in the west, there are plently of companies that use Python in India and not all of them "do crap work outsourced to India". Here's a list http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PythonCompaniesInIndia http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PythonCompaniesInIndi... A local user group in Bangalore is organising the first Indian PyCon right now and we've talked to many companies (some Indian and some not) about sponsorships because they use Python.
  - plinkplonk 17y ago
    You say, "there are plently of companies that use Python in India and not all of them "do crap work outsourced to India"." Interesting. I see Tavant (outsourcing company), servelots (looking for people with java sql tomcat -hardly indicates a Python focus), moog (nothing very python specific and seems to follow the "offshore India dev centre" model - high probability of dealing with crap work the folks in the West don't want to do), Trellisys (outsourcing) , DIQ (I can't even make out what they do. Seems like a company run by a bunch of jokers, see their blog!). Can you point out any companies working primarily with python don't do outsourcing, and have sophisticated python based products in that list? If you can't doesn't that just prove my point?
    - ananthrk 17y ago
      I remember products from Tachyon (http://tachyon.in http://tachyon.in, the makers of QuillPad) using Python. Some of them are even open-source!
sri 17y ago
how do we know it is by the python software foundation?
- VanL 17y ago
  Hmm. It is, but right now I can't prove it. I will see if we can get the survey promoted on the PSF blog or on python.org. Update: See the front page of PyCon.org: http://us.pycon.org/2010/ http://us.pycon.org/2010/
  - VanL 17y ago
    Update 2: See also the PSF blog: http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2009/08/in-search-of-success-stories.html http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2009/08/in-search-of-success-sto...
CaptSolo 17y ago
a good idea. but there are some countries/regions still missing from the "Regions" drop-down list which, being a required field, might prevent people from these countries filling out the form. e.g., Ireland, Greece, ...
bmelton 17y ago
My submission, with some information omitted: As a federal IT consultant, I have built a number of utilities for <a government entity> that either use Python directly or leverage bits of Python code in order to make another product work. One interesting bit in particular, I whipped up a 13 line Python script to monitor each side of a load balanced cluster for uptime, properly shutting down the relevant Apache instance of a side if its Weblogic portal instance was not responding, and redirecting traffic to the other side. This need was present as there was no facility in either the multi-thousand dollar Cisco Content Service Switches fronting the servers, nor the multi-million dollar AquaLogic portal behind them.

41 points by VanL 17y ago

If anyone involved is reading this, it would be nice to have an option for the Netherlands. You know, where Python was _invented_ ;-)

paulgb 17y ago
I see "The Netherlands/Belgium" on the list. edit: Saw VanL's comment, looks like he meant to reply to this thread. That was a fast fix.

VanL 17y ago

<blink>. Missed that. The form has been updated.

plinkplonk 17y ago

I wish there were good companies in India using Python. Most companies claiming to do so just tack on Python to a long list of languages they use and don't really use it significantly. I know great programmers who would kill for a decent paying job in Django/Python. The "do crap work outsourced to India" idea is what the Indian software industry is built around. Lots of java/dotnet.Some Ruby on Rails, thanks to the marketing of RoR. Very little python. :(

donw 17y ago
Not to sound like, well, everybody else on the site, but if you think there's a market for it, why not start up an Indian Python consultancy? Hell, even "Indian Python" sounds cool.
- deleted 17y ago
  [deleted]
- kirubakaran 17y ago
  Or "Indian Rock Python" "One of the unique features of the Rock pythons of India is that they can raise their body temperature above the ambient level, through muscular contractions." http://www.iloveindia.com/wildlife/indian-snakes/python.html http://www.iloveindia.com/wildlife/indian-snakes/python.html
visitor4rmindia 17y ago
We are 100% Indian product company - the product is Indian and built for the Indian market (although we have customers in 80 countries). I would classify us as a "very good company" and we use python for our scripting needs though our major work is in C/C++. Does that make you feel a bit better? :-)
- plinkplonk 17y ago
  "I would classify us as a "very good company" and we use python for our scripting needs though our major work is in C/C++. Does that make you feel a bit better? :-)" Which company is this anyway? What is your product?
  - visitor4rmindia 17y ago
    Tally (www.tallysolutions.com)
    - plinkplonk 17y ago
      Interesting, I thought Tally was written in C (C++? I knew someone who worked on Tally long ago . I have the impression it was primarily C or C++ ). You did say scripting - Do you use much Python? What's the ratio of Python to C++/C?
      - visitor4rmindia 17y ago
        Tally is entirely written in C/C++/assembly + TDL (which is a DSL). However, to manage development, we have our own in-house SCM tool (which uses SVN as a backend). This tool is written entirely in python. Additionally, some small build utilities etc are also written in python. That's what I meant by "scripting needs". Apologies for the slow replies btw - I haven't been checking HN regularly.
        plinkplonk 17y ago
        "Tally is entirely written in C/C++/assembly + TDL (which is a DSL)." Interesting! I once knew some people who wanted to create a "startup" to compete aginst Tally. It didn't go anywhere, but I thought it was an interesting idea. "Apologies for the slow replies btw " No worries.
nibrahim 17y ago
While not as much as in the west, there are plently of companies that use Python in India and not all of them "do crap work outsourced to India". Here's a list http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PythonCompaniesInIndia http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PythonCompaniesInIndi... A local user group in Bangalore is organising the first Indian PyCon right now and we've talked to many companies (some Indian and some not) about sponsorships because they use Python.
- plinkplonk 17y ago
  You say, "there are plently of companies that use Python in India and not all of them "do crap work outsourced to India"." Interesting. I see Tavant (outsourcing company), servelots (looking for people with java sql tomcat -hardly indicates a Python focus), moog (nothing very python specific and seems to follow the "offshore India dev centre" model - high probability of dealing with crap work the folks in the West don't want to do), Trellisys (outsourcing) , DIQ (I can't even make out what they do. Seems like a company run by a bunch of jokers, see their blog!). Can you point out any companies working primarily with python don't do outsourcing, and have sophisticated python based products in that list? If you can't doesn't that just prove my point?
  - ananthrk 17y ago
    I remember products from Tachyon (http://tachyon.in http://tachyon.in, the makers of QuillPad) using Python. Some of them are even open-source!

sri 17y ago

how do we know it is by the python software foundation?

VanL 17y ago
Hmm. It is, but right now I can't prove it. I will see if we can get the survey promoted on the PSF blog or on python.org. Update: See the front page of PyCon.org: http://us.pycon.org/2010/ http://us.pycon.org/2010/
- VanL 17y ago
  Update 2: See also the PSF blog: http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2009/08/in-search-of-success-stories.html http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2009/08/in-search-of-success-sto...

CaptSolo 17y ago

a good idea. but there are some countries/regions still missing from the "Regions" drop-down list which, being a required field, might prevent people from these countries filling out the form. e.g., Ireland, Greece, ...

bmelton 17y ago

My submission, with some information omitted: As a federal IT consultant, I have built a number of utilities for <a government entity> that either use Python directly or leverage bits of Python code in order to make another product work. One interesting bit in particular, I whipped up a 13 line Python script to monitor each side of a load balanced cluster for uptime, properly shutting down the relevant Apache instance of a side if its Weblogic portal instance was not responding, and redirecting traffic to the other side. This need was present as there was no facility in either the multi-thousand dollar Cisco Content Service Switches fronting the servers, nor the multi-million dollar AquaLogic portal behind them.